HOW DARE REAL LIFE INTERFERE WITH POSTING THE COMIC!!! J/K I hope everything is okay! You know we’ll be here whenever you get around to it. I hope you have a good weekend!
Oh God, no. I mean, I love Goblins and I check all the time for updates (I’ve even drawn fanart of Kin), but I hope I never ever update as gradually as Tarol does. The once-a-week probably-maybe is a little tiring. :/
I was just letting you know that your talent and past proffesionalisim has built you A LOT of leeway with me, and I am betting most your fan base.
If you did make us wait we have trust it would be for good reasons so you could come back with more stories and the artistry we have become accustom too.
Well we should see Kin again eventually, but in a way I am scared to see her… She was smart enough to figure out the oblivion hole in the first place, she will figure it out again… what worries me is the whole prophesy where it was said “the serpent will become your prey and love will breed hate” or something like that… I am not sure my heart can handle more tragedy.
I’m still kind of reeling a bit from Minmax’s… “horrible lapse of judgement” is the term I’m going to use. The glimpse Kin got of the sympathetic pain injury right at the end is hopeful, though.
That’s definitely a polite way of putting it… And the sympathetic pain is why I think Kin will put 2 and (complex math equation equaling 2) together.
I do have to say though Idle is quickly catching up to Kin as an adorable female character, and the way she is eying Forgath… heh heh heh… he has no idea…
Of you mean how he grabbed her leash, I don’t think he did that purposefully in order to control her. He just wanted her to listen to him for a second and he knew she didn’t like being touched in the back of his mind and had a lapse in judgement during a time in which he was very stressed and in a panic.
When the person you love (who only moments ago loved you just as much as you loved them) very abruptly changes their mind and questions the whole thing, you get pretty desperate. And poor Minmax isn’t… very bright. His levels of confusion must have skyrocketed. He didn’t want to lose Kin and his body moved out of instinct before his brain could catch up. It wasn’t his fault. It was very clearly an accident. Not to mention he couldn’t even properly explain the seeing thing to her which probably frustrated the crap out of him…
I don’t dislike Minmax and I believe he can explain himself and make amends for it given the context, but I also take a more unforgiving view of the situation.
He knew the leash controlled her actions, and that she couldn’t fight it. He knew that it had been used to abuse and hurt her. He knew it was something she hated more than anything else. And yet, the moment things went south, he still used it. He even used it to make Kin take the leash back into her own possession instead of just dropping the damned thing.
Minmax didn’t mean harm, he acted like he kind of is: a ten year old boy in a grown man’s body. But it was still a reprehensible act that would take a LOT to amend.
It would/will probably help if Kin can work out that Ruby messed with their memories, though.
As far as dropping the leash goes, I’m not sure that really factors in, in terms of being good or bad at that point. He knew what he had done, but had no idea where to go from there. I think him dropping the leash in horror would’ve had the same impact as him handing her the leash in sorrow. He knew nothing he did or said at that point would’ve made her feel better or less angry at him. Holding him accountable for that is on the same level of using human as a racial slur against him at that point. She was angry and she said something in anger and didn’t mean it. Likewise, Minmax was sad and scared and acted accordingly.
That entire scene made me see him as a very sad, confused and scared little boy who had no idea what to do or say and as I said before his body moved without his brain being able to catch up on time. He knew what the leash did to Kin. I think he was desperate to grab onto her and subconsciously thought that grabbing her arm would be more harmful and thus he instinctively grabbed the leash, but completely by accident. He would not have consciously grabbed that leash simply -because- he knew what it had done. I firmly believe the whole thing was a horrid accident that due to Minmax’s nature, was made worse.
I’m honestly more angry at the alt-kin that obliviated the necklace Max had made for Kin at the outset of their relationship, provoking that malformed interaction by re-writing all of their prior interactions around that suddenly never-was token of sincerity between them.
Max was put in a position of suddenly needing to express something that had /already been expressed/, but had had a fundamental exchange of it’s understanding between them /unmade/, retconned out of reality by someone who had no right to make that kind of decision for them.
Doesn’t make Max’s choice any better, but he shouldn’t have been in that position in the first place.
I’m sure she considered it, but… Remember, she’d been told that if she tried to remove it, it would explode. Goblinslayer might well have been lying (or wrong) about that, or maybe oblivion wouldn’t count as trying to remove it.
However, that’s not a thing you would really want to test with a collar that’s around your own neck.
Echoing what Haukness said. I love your stories and art, and your dedication and respect for us readers/commenters makes you all the more amazing. Visiting here brightens my mornings—even these (very few) times you are late. 🙂
Whoa okay, what? Suko is 2? I thought he was like, 5 due to his size and he just was a late bloomer in terms of speaking. I’ve never seen a 2 year old that tall in respects to an 8 year old.
Also, what are they arguing about? I’m so confused. He thinks she’s saying she’s Suko? I don’t get it.
I’m actually glad they mentioned it, because he is huge! Maybe it’s a species thing, but he could just as well be a large 2 year old—especially if he’s close to 3. My daughter’s friend looked like a big 4 year old at 2.5. She is 7 now will probably be needing to wear size 12 clothes in a couple months.
Suko’s got a bit of a complicated character design history.
I had initially intended for him to be closer to 4 and drew him an appropriate size for that age. I also decided that he would speak in “kid-gibber” because I think it’s cute and funny. At the point of his first appearance his age was not canonized in the strip but in the Commentary I mentioned him being about four.
This prompted feedback from several readers (readers whom I knew from past commentary to have raised children of their own) that four year olds simply don’t do kid-gibber, at least not to Suko’s extent.
Based on the feedback of those with more kid experience than I (I am not currently a father) I decided to canonize him in the strip itself at “a bit over two”.
But because he was originally meant to be a four year old, he was drawn in past strips as standing a bit above his parent’s waist lines (which puts him at around Selkie’s shoulder height as we see here, plus or minus some allowances for panel composition to minimize the “floating head effect”).
Suko had already, at this stage, been depicted as the size of a four year old, but was retconned to be two. It felt like a strange idea to me to have him shrinking in size from one depiction to the next, so I essentially chose for him to be a taller-than-normal two year old rather than being a four year old with delayed speech development.
Delayed speech makes more sense. My nephew is 3 1/2 and doesn’t speak at all. He occasionally says, “Baww” “No” and “Jubba” Oh and “Mote Mote” but that’s it. I’ve seen stunted speech 3 and 4 year olds, but I’ve never seen a 2 year old the size of a 6 year old.
When I was working at a bookstore years ago a woman came in looking for workbooks to get her son prepared for 1st grade. She was pushing a stroller and the little boy in it looked like he was easily 1st grade age (6 or so). So I kept trying to interest him in the books as I showed them to her. I figured maybe he had some physical disability that resulted in them still using a stroller (easier to maneuver than a wheelchair in the shops). She finally realized what I was doing and thanked me but told me “Oh it’s not for this one. It’s for his big brother. This big guy just turned three last month. He’s not even ready for preschool yet.” So yes, there are 2 and 3 yr olds out there who are much larger than the average.
A few years later when I had my first child I met another super tall kid. He was part of the playgroup my son belonged to. They were about a week apart in age. By the time they were two the other boy was constantly being mistaken for a kindergartener and anytime we had them out at a park together we would get asked if they were brothers and how many years apart were they.
Suko as a much bigger 2 yr old is perfectly believable for me.
There’s also at what stage they start talking — they may grow as “hatchlings” for a while, but only start talking once they’re able to go out of the water. Thus, they would naturally start talking at a larger size, on average, than a comparable average human.
Oo, like the Yilane (imagine the accent over the e…) except that everyone can learn to talk because the Sarnothi aren’t selfish and self-centered (as a species trait).
Can ol’ Doc Pohl go out into the BITTER COLD AND SNOW without bundling up like he’s assaulting Everest because he’s a different race, or because he’s an adult, or because he’s male?
I thought about “he’s just stepping outside for a moment”, but if I was just stepping outside for a moment, AND IT WAS SNOWING, I’d put a coat on. And I don’t have Selkie’s “cold-related” problems.
He’s big for his age (size-wise), but his behavior is totally normal for a feisty toddler (he’s 2). Toddlers are basically between the baby and child stage. Some may speak well, some hardly speak at all, and some speak on patterns like that.
A toddler is the correct term for a child who is walking but under 3 years of age (they hit preschooler at 3-4). 2 is the age kids usually start to potty train. My daughter became interested at 18 months and was out of diapers at 2.5—though I’ve seen some kids take a little longer (3-4).
But I’ve seen kids talk like Suko into their 3s. Usually the parents find a speech therapist at that point, but it rarely has to do anything with intelligence level. One of my friends’ sons is 4 and just learning correct speech pattern and how to speak clearly beyond 1-4 words at a time, but he can read and do math like a first grader.
Also, the below commenters are correct about the word “retarded.” It may have been the medically correct/socially-acceptable word to use 20 years ago (just like “negro” was before the 60s), but it is derogatory now and very insulting to people who are born with mental/intellectual disabilities.
first of all don’t use that word
second of all if he is developmentally disabled theres nothing wrong with that and we dont even know what is a norm vs a disability for sarnothi
third HE IS TWO
No, in fact, it isn’t. It used to be, but many things used to be medical terms (mental disabilities are actually one of the fastest hit by the insult treadmill: simpleton, moron, feeble-minded, idiot, imbecile). Rosa’s Law (named for Rosa Marcellino, a young girl with Down Syndrome, who was bullied using ‘retarded’ as a pejorative) was signed into law in October 2010, so ‘retarded’ has lost all medical meaning. Instead, the correct term is ‘intellectual disability’.
I think it’s only offensive if used in place of stupid or as a random insult, kind of like saying “that’ so gay” at something you don’t like is homophobic but saying “John is gay (because he’s dating Mark)” is not.
But w/e, I’ll know to use a different term next time.
The problem is it’s such a loaded term (and has been used so virulently as an insult for so long, particularly AT kids with various disabilities including the ones for whom it was once technically medically accurate,) that some of us have trouble hearing it at all. Like, technically you could use it to refer to, say, slow plant growth, but I as a developmentally disabled autistic person would still cringe a little inside even in that completely innocuous context. And I didn’t even have it thrown at me all that often, much less have the official medical community use it to diminish my worth as a person.
(Ableism: Often so prevalent it’s ingrained into the very medical community that gives us names to begin with.)
I know im asking a lot here, but can we try to unload some terms so to speak? I mean all the discrimination isnt going to go away just because decent people shouldnt use certain words. You got to eliminate the discrimintory meanings and hate behind it or else people are just going to use different words. And all then decent people just have less words and phrases they can use.
Part of the problem is that the word has a large and varied history even outside of the medical field. Even if we agree that due to its current pejorative nature we should not use it as a medical term anymore, I think it would be hard to ban it from all fields.
For example, it is common in physics (retarding forces, retarded potential, fire retardant materials) and to a lesser extent in music (ritardando).
Eh, bonding time doesn’t have to be a one-time thing. If Selkie’s still feeling the need for one on one attention that should be easy enough to arrange over winter break… just not before Christmas, since it’s currently the 23 in strip-time.
Given Selkie’s delighted excited reaction in the last strip, I think this totally counts as special, and a huge treat — to her. There’ll be other times for one-on-one, but a baby only hatches once!
I remember tiny little kids giving me this problem when i was their age.. focused hard on arguing a point, not recognizing that you aren’t disagreeing. This one kid no matter what you tried to say he’d scream “MY cereal!” and eventually his mom would get on your case “it’s HIS cereal” yeah i freakin get it. i wasn’t..
HOW DARE REAL LIFE INTERFERE WITH POSTING THE COMIC!!! J/K I hope everything is okay! You know we’ll be here whenever you get around to it. I hope you have a good weekend!
No joke, some people actually posted things alongs those lines unironically when this happened before. <<
Goblins goes on hiatus all the time and you rank up near that with me… Feel free to make me wait longer, I will stick around.
Oh God, no. I mean, I love Goblins and I check all the time for updates (I’ve even drawn fanart of Kin), but I hope I never ever update as gradually as Tarol does. The once-a-week probably-maybe is a little tiring. :/
I was just letting you know that your talent and past proffesionalisim has built you A LOT of leeway with me, and I am betting most your fan base.
If you did make us wait we have trust it would be for good reasons so you could come back with more stories and the artistry we have become accustom too.
Well we should see Kin again eventually, but in a way I am scared to see her… She was smart enough to figure out the oblivion hole in the first place, she will figure it out again… what worries me is the whole prophesy where it was said “the serpent will become your prey and love will breed hate” or something like that… I am not sure my heart can handle more tragedy.
What Haukness said. Also, Tarol updates the way he does for reasons. Reasons I very much hope you never have to deal with!
Thank you for saying this, I’d forgotten about that. 😡
I’m still kind of reeling a bit from Minmax’s… “horrible lapse of judgement” is the term I’m going to use. The glimpse Kin got of the sympathetic pain injury right at the end is hopeful, though.
That’s definitely a polite way of putting it… And the sympathetic pain is why I think Kin will put 2 and (complex math equation equaling 2) together.
I do have to say though Idle is quickly catching up to Kin as an adorable female character, and the way she is eying Forgath… heh heh heh… he has no idea…
Of you mean how he grabbed her leash, I don’t think he did that purposefully in order to control her. He just wanted her to listen to him for a second and he knew she didn’t like being touched in the back of his mind and had a lapse in judgement during a time in which he was very stressed and in a panic.
When the person you love (who only moments ago loved you just as much as you loved them) very abruptly changes their mind and questions the whole thing, you get pretty desperate. And poor Minmax isn’t… very bright. His levels of confusion must have skyrocketed. He didn’t want to lose Kin and his body moved out of instinct before his brain could catch up. It wasn’t his fault. It was very clearly an accident. Not to mention he couldn’t even properly explain the seeing thing to her which probably frustrated the crap out of him…
I don’t dislike Minmax and I believe he can explain himself and make amends for it given the context, but I also take a more unforgiving view of the situation.
He knew the leash controlled her actions, and that she couldn’t fight it. He knew that it had been used to abuse and hurt her. He knew it was something she hated more than anything else. And yet, the moment things went south, he still used it. He even used it to make Kin take the leash back into her own possession instead of just dropping the damned thing.
Minmax didn’t mean harm, he acted like he kind of is: a ten year old boy in a grown man’s body. But it was still a reprehensible act that would take a LOT to amend.
It would/will probably help if Kin can work out that Ruby messed with their memories, though.
As far as dropping the leash goes, I’m not sure that really factors in, in terms of being good or bad at that point. He knew what he had done, but had no idea where to go from there. I think him dropping the leash in horror would’ve had the same impact as him handing her the leash in sorrow. He knew nothing he did or said at that point would’ve made her feel better or less angry at him. Holding him accountable for that is on the same level of using human as a racial slur against him at that point. She was angry and she said something in anger and didn’t mean it. Likewise, Minmax was sad and scared and acted accordingly.
That entire scene made me see him as a very sad, confused and scared little boy who had no idea what to do or say and as I said before his body moved without his brain being able to catch up on time. He knew what the leash did to Kin. I think he was desperate to grab onto her and subconsciously thought that grabbing her arm would be more harmful and thus he instinctively grabbed the leash, but completely by accident. He would not have consciously grabbed that leash simply -because- he knew what it had done. I firmly believe the whole thing was a horrid accident that due to Minmax’s nature, was made worse.
I’m honestly more angry at the alt-kin that obliviated the necklace Max had made for Kin at the outset of their relationship, provoking that malformed interaction by re-writing all of their prior interactions around that suddenly never-was token of sincerity between them.
Max was put in a position of suddenly needing to express something that had /already been expressed/, but had had a fundamental exchange of it’s understanding between them /unmade/, retconned out of reality by someone who had no right to make that kind of decision for them.
Doesn’t make Max’s choice any better, but he shouldn’t have been in that position in the first place.
I am a little surprised at all the time in the Maze of Many that Kin never considered using the oblivion hole to unmake her leash.
I’m sure she considered it, but… Remember, she’d been told that if she tried to remove it, it would explode. Goblinslayer might well have been lying (or wrong) about that, or maybe oblivion wouldn’t count as trying to remove it.
However, that’s not a thing you would really want to test with a collar that’s around your own neck.
I would also love to see that fan art
I’ll have to dig it out at home, I can’t find the old forum post I shared it on. 😡
Echoing what Haukness said. I love your stories and art, and your dedication and respect for us readers/commenters makes you all the more amazing. Visiting here brightens my mornings—even these (very few) times you are late. 🙂
Don’t worry about it, we all understand 🙂 things happen, it’s all good
I merely assumed that the colors splashed about the page were simply an artistic scene depicting the egg hatching.
(I jest, I jest. XD )
But I totally understand too Dave, real life gets in the way and we can be patient.
That’s exactly what I thought too.
Whoa okay, what? Suko is 2? I thought he was like, 5 due to his size and he just was a late bloomer in terms of speaking. I’ve never seen a 2 year old that tall in respects to an 8 year old.
Also, what are they arguing about? I’m so confused. He thinks she’s saying she’s Suko? I don’t get it.
I’m actually glad they mentioned it, because he is huge! Maybe it’s a species thing, but he could just as well be a large 2 year old—especially if he’s close to 3. My daughter’s friend looked like a big 4 year old at 2.5. She is 7 now will probably be needing to wear size 12 clothes in a couple months.
Suko’s got a bit of a complicated character design history.
I had initially intended for him to be closer to 4 and drew him an appropriate size for that age. I also decided that he would speak in “kid-gibber” because I think it’s cute and funny. At the point of his first appearance his age was not canonized in the strip but in the Commentary I mentioned him being about four.
This prompted feedback from several readers (readers whom I knew from past commentary to have raised children of their own) that four year olds simply don’t do kid-gibber, at least not to Suko’s extent.
Based on the feedback of those with more kid experience than I (I am not currently a father) I decided to canonize him in the strip itself at “a bit over two”.
But because he was originally meant to be a four year old, he was drawn in past strips as standing a bit above his parent’s waist lines (which puts him at around Selkie’s shoulder height as we see here, plus or minus some allowances for panel composition to minimize the “floating head effect”).
Suko had already, at this stage, been depicted as the size of a four year old, but was retconned to be two. It felt like a strange idea to me to have him shrinking in size from one depiction to the next, so I essentially chose for him to be a taller-than-normal two year old rather than being a four year old with delayed speech development.
Delayed speech makes more sense. My nephew is 3 1/2 and doesn’t speak at all. He occasionally says, “Baww” “No” and “Jubba” Oh and “Mote Mote” but that’s it. I’ve seen stunted speech 3 and 4 year olds, but I’ve never seen a 2 year old the size of a 6 year old.
When I was working at a bookstore years ago a woman came in looking for workbooks to get her son prepared for 1st grade. She was pushing a stroller and the little boy in it looked like he was easily 1st grade age (6 or so). So I kept trying to interest him in the books as I showed them to her. I figured maybe he had some physical disability that resulted in them still using a stroller (easier to maneuver than a wheelchair in the shops). She finally realized what I was doing and thanked me but told me “Oh it’s not for this one. It’s for his big brother. This big guy just turned three last month. He’s not even ready for preschool yet.” So yes, there are 2 and 3 yr olds out there who are much larger than the average.
A few years later when I had my first child I met another super tall kid. He was part of the playgroup my son belonged to. They were about a week apart in age. By the time they were two the other boy was constantly being mistaken for a kindergartener and anytime we had them out at a park together we would get asked if they were brothers and how many years apart were they.
Suko as a much bigger 2 yr old is perfectly believable for me.
I just thought that maybe Sarnothi grow faster than humans the first few years *shrug*
There’s also at what stage they start talking — they may grow as “hatchlings” for a while, but only start talking once they’re able to go out of the water. Thus, they would naturally start talking at a larger size, on average, than a comparable average human.
Oo, like the Yilane (imagine the accent over the e…) except that everyone can learn to talk because the Sarnothi aren’t selfish and self-centered (as a species trait).
I have a sister who was taller than me by the time she was ten. O.O
Big children happen.
Can ol’ Doc Pohl go out into the BITTER COLD AND SNOW without bundling up like he’s assaulting Everest because he’s a different race, or because he’s an adult, or because he’s male?
I thought about “he’s just stepping outside for a moment”, but if I was just stepping outside for a moment, AND IT WAS SNOWING, I’d put a coat on. And I don’t have Selkie’s “cold-related” problems.
Suko’s coming of as if he’s retarded, probably not intentional. Might just by inexperience with kids though, are they supposed to act like this?
He’s big for his age (size-wise), but his behavior is totally normal for a feisty toddler (he’s 2). Toddlers are basically between the baby and child stage. Some may speak well, some hardly speak at all, and some speak on patterns like that.
Makes sense then, when I think toddler I imagine them still barely walking and wearing diapers and Suko looks big enough to be past that stage.
A toddler is the correct term for a child who is walking but under 3 years of age (they hit preschooler at 3-4). 2 is the age kids usually start to potty train. My daughter became interested at 18 months and was out of diapers at 2.5—though I’ve seen some kids take a little longer (3-4).
But I’ve seen kids talk like Suko into their 3s. Usually the parents find a speech therapist at that point, but it rarely has to do anything with intelligence level. One of my friends’ sons is 4 and just learning correct speech pattern and how to speak clearly beyond 1-4 words at a time, but he can read and do math like a first grader.
Also, the below commenters are correct about the word “retarded.” It may have been the medically correct/socially-acceptable word to use 20 years ago (just like “negro” was before the 60s), but it is derogatory now and very insulting to people who are born with mental/intellectual disabilities.
first of all don’t use that word
second of all if he is developmentally disabled theres nothing wrong with that and we dont even know what is a norm vs a disability for sarnothi
third HE IS TWO
I used it in the context it’s supposed to be used, it’s a legit medical term.
No, in fact, it isn’t. It used to be, but many things used to be medical terms (mental disabilities are actually one of the fastest hit by the insult treadmill: simpleton, moron, feeble-minded, idiot, imbecile). Rosa’s Law (named for Rosa Marcellino, a young girl with Down Syndrome, who was bullied using ‘retarded’ as a pejorative) was signed into law in October 2010, so ‘retarded’ has lost all medical meaning. Instead, the correct term is ‘intellectual disability’.
I knew it was no longer socially-acceptable, but I didn’t know it was dropped from the medical dictionary. That’s wonderful!
Now if only we could lose the word, “caucasian.”
I think it’s only offensive if used in place of stupid or as a random insult, kind of like saying “that’ so gay” at something you don’t like is homophobic but saying “John is gay (because he’s dating Mark)” is not.
But w/e, I’ll know to use a different term next time.
The problem is it’s such a loaded term (and has been used so virulently as an insult for so long, particularly AT kids with various disabilities including the ones for whom it was once technically medically accurate,) that some of us have trouble hearing it at all. Like, technically you could use it to refer to, say, slow plant growth, but I as a developmentally disabled autistic person would still cringe a little inside even in that completely innocuous context. And I didn’t even have it thrown at me all that often, much less have the official medical community use it to diminish my worth as a person.
(Ableism: Often so prevalent it’s ingrained into the very medical community that gives us names to begin with.)
I know im asking a lot here, but can we try to unload some terms so to speak? I mean all the discrimination isnt going to go away just because decent people shouldnt use certain words. You got to eliminate the discrimintory meanings and hate behind it or else people are just going to use different words. And all then decent people just have less words and phrases they can use.
Part of the problem is that the word has a large and varied history even outside of the medical field. Even if we agree that due to its current pejorative nature we should not use it as a medical term anymore, I think it would be hard to ban it from all fields.
For example, it is common in physics (retarding forces, retarded potential, fire retardant materials) and to a lesser extent in music (ritardando).
I also use it if I’m working on a car and explaining why some fluids aren’t working right. “The cold is retarding the flow.”
It isn’t cool to use on people no, but it’s still a viable and valuable word to use elsewhere.
Nothing wrong with the word retarded. I was thinking the same thing.
Uh yeah there is. This is normal toddler behavior and that’s a slur. Don’t use it. -____-
All he wants to know is who’s on first…
Actually I was thinking he’s having a complex and varied discussion with Selkie and getting frustrated no one is getting it.
Totally worth the wait! 😀 My daughter and my friend’s kid are about the same ages apart. Totally cute!
Suko swoosh!
I was so expecting – and dreading – that their father-daughter time was going to coincidentally be at the same place as Andi/Amanda’s.
Thank you.
I don’t think this will count as their activity together, hope taking her out somewhere nice is still on the table some other date.
Eh, bonding time doesn’t have to be a one-time thing. If Selkie’s still feeling the need for one on one attention that should be easy enough to arrange over winter break… just not before Christmas, since it’s currently the 23 in strip-time.
I mean like, this is obviously something they would have ended up doing anyway so it wouldn’t count as a special treat in my opinion.
Given Selkie’s delighted excited reaction in the last strip, I think this totally counts as special, and a huge treat — to her. There’ll be other times for one-on-one, but a baby only hatches once!
Oh yea definitely. Just think Todd still owes her for putting up with Amanda despite this happening. :p
So, they’re discussing this at goth stores across America?
I remember tiny little kids giving me this problem when i was their age.. focused hard on arguing a point, not recognizing that you aren’t disagreeing. This one kid no matter what you tried to say he’d scream “MY cereal!” and eventually his mom would get on your case “it’s HIS cereal” yeah i freakin get it. i wasn’t..
That kid probably became a cereal offender.
Toddlers are so silly. XD I remember when my niece used to be like this.
Hey man, as long as it doesn’t just get orphaned and left hanging, I can’t really complain.