(Sorry, super behind tonight. Might be able to get flat colors done before bed)
Now’s a good time to get that artisan coffee grown on holy ground and harvested by the light of the full moon, with creme from the udder of a cow descended from Napoleon’s personal flock.
I don't think of Kenneth as being a bad person, but I do think of him as being a bit "money-blind". He has money, he's probably grown up with and always had money, so its natural for him to show kindness and extend courtesy through transaction.
Has the milk been consecrated by the acolytes of the holy Caffeina though? That’s supposed to give it that extra kick.
Or as my mother phrased it, the first time she tried this oh-so-sought-after product… “ugh, this tastes like the stuff that’s been sitting in the pot all day in the Walmart breakroom.” and… she’s not really wrong, is she?
My wife is a pastor… She giggles every time I call coffee “liquid fellowship.”
Dangit, now you went and made me crave ice coffee
You haven’t been craving Ice Coffee all along?
Only time I don’t crave coffee, is when I’m asleep, only then because there’s not enough coffee in the system.
Sleep is the ritual period, daily, of Not Coffee time.
Andi needs to get off her high horse here.
Seems even if he hadn’t shown up angry looking,Andi would be like this.
I hope you’re aware she doesn’t know that he didn’t know the full story, or that he does now. All she knows is this is the guy who verbally attacked her at her work place, insulting her daughter with no evidence to back his claims, and is now suddenly offering a peace offer.
I’d be just as aggressive. And confused.
She’s not going to calm down immediately.
No evidence? Hitting your friends isn’t okay even if she broke a promise. Andi didn’t know about this because Amanda never brought it up.
It may not be okay, but it’s understandable. Morality is a gradient, not a binary.
I think Andi should be the one making peace offers to be honest.
I didn’t really see it as that. Most people assume that when two people have a child together, that means they have the same last name–untrue. I have a friend who had a child with her (now ex) boyfriend, and they gave the baby the father’s last name instead of hers, since they thought they might get married a few years down the road. So she gets mixed up and called Ms. ‘This’ instead of Ms. ‘That’ all the time, mainly at her son’s school.
I just see this as a classic social miscommunication-slash-assumption. Plus, nowadays a lot of women keep their maiden name after marriage and don’t even hyphenate. So forms from when I was in school made kids’ parents write down if they had different last names, since people just assume that if it’s the kid’s last name, then both parents must have it too. That’s not always the case, since in Todd and Andi’s case they never married, even if they did there was no guarantee Andi would have taken his name.
Since mix-ups with last names can happen often, it can become rather irritating to always have to correct people. I haven’t been called the wrong last name, but my last name is hard to pronounce if you’ve never heard it aloud, so I can understand her frustration at least that much. The way I see it, Kenneth just made a mistake, hence why he asked her if her last name were Smith and didn’t just call Andi that to begin with. Andi just corrected him so as not to prolong the confusion.
Yup, my spawn got her daddy’s last name because he cared and I didn’t. As a result people would sometimes call me Mrs. kidslastname, which I found mildly irritating but not worth making an issue about, and was more upset about the Mrs than the hislastname – particularly if it was reasonable that they’d not have had a chance to learn myname.
Interestingly in the Province of Quebec a woman isn’t allowed to take a man’s last name simply because she wedded him.
I have an easy-to-pronounce last name that is spelled how it sounds, and people often manage to mangle it after hearing it spoken AND seeing it written.
High Horse? She just seems Guarded to me… maybe you are all looking at her with preconceived notions yourself?
She was attacked, she is on crisis mode and trying to take care of her kid, and the person who she perceives as the cause of all this (whether justified or not) appears again, I would be a bit defensive too.
A concerned parent telling the mother of a violent child isn’t attacking her. It wouldn’t have been so bad if Andi hadn’t been so childish. But she was and it escalated.
Wow, first you admit that Andi doesn’t know about the hitting because Amanda didn’t tell her and now you are right back to “Everything is Andi’s fault forever and ever! She should know by her psychic powers what her child and every other person is thinking and act accordingly!”
Or how about you not be aggressive and understand that she needed to at least try to be calm and ask for evidence instead of just flat out acted like a kid. -___-
Blue Coyote is one of the least aggressive people here. She makes a pretty good point, too. You seem to take a lot of things personally.
Except no I don’t? And quite frankly around here there have been tons of actual gross things been said that are nasty and unnecessary. Like the lovely transphobic b.s. a while back.
Blue doesn’t say anything transphobic as far as I can tell. If others are saying it they are rude, but there’s been said plenty of other rude things that are as bad. Unless it’s blatantly nasty, people don’t get banned. Dave lightly moderates, and that is actually a positive thing about comments here.
Funny how I never said she was. And I don’t think the terf who came in saying that a transman was a woman was banned. I’m probably wrong but I don’t know.
And just so you understand, that is not an attack. It is an observation. You do say some really interesting things at times and you seem like a decent person, but you are so extreme when it comes to your views about Andi and anyone who disagrees with your views. Conversation and debate are great. Labeling people? Not so much. Why not sit back and enjoy the ride here. Open up and listen. There’s more to life than arguing. This does not mean you can’t hate on Andi. You are welcome to, but expect people to defend her character, too, as she is not being portrayed as a villain—but more of a grey character who probably will (continue to) improve through the strip given a theme (if I remember the original ads correctly) is that love is good.
Oh yes this is me taking it personally. I think she’s terrible because she’s literally kept up a disgusting lie for years as well as insulting his family. That’s why I don’t like her. I have made that clear. Wolf likes her,GOODIE GOODIE GUMDROPS I DON’T CARE. I don’t trust Andi. She hasn’t proven herself trustworthy. Now please back off.
*coyote
Well, if you truly don’t care you should be bashing someone who feels differently than you. Blue Coyote is a decent person. At least in comments she appears to be—for all I know she is a 7-foot hairy man who keeps bodies in the freezer. Pretty much anyone else here could be, too (not that I have anything against tall and hairy people). 🙂
Should be = shouldn’t be. Stinkin’ phone.
Oh my gosh. Pot calling the kettle. She seems to usually comment anytime I say anything slightly negative about Andi and said even tried to call Todd an abuser. But hey. Whatever. I guess I’m the bad guy. -___-
I don’t see her being on any high horse. She’s accepting the peace offering by mentioning the flavor she likes. She isn’t smiling yet, no, because without knowing why he’s changed his tune she’s still going to be a bit guarded. But she’s listening. I predict a friendly conversation within a page or two.
And, uh. Dave? Typo in panel 1: “Aside FROM a small oversight…”
Yeah Andi isn’t going to be peaceful. I can tell from the grump face. DX And yeah to be fair,hearing that your kid is aggressive from a stranger is difficult. Especially when you view them as being aggressive themselves.
What’s he holding in the second panel? , a car key (unlikely), a tablet in a blister pack (even more unlikely), or a membership card (for the cafe presumably)? o.o
Looks like a debit or credit card to me, logo looks a little like the Mastercard logo.
Sounds about right.
I’m a little confused that Ken had just called Lillian by her last name in the previous comic, and now seems surprised and calls her by her first name. Was he previously unaware that Ms H-Z was the person he already knew as Lillian?
I also wonder why he’s using “Miss” for both Lillian and Andi. I believe it’s been established that Lillian is married, and in any case, “Ms” has been common usage for decades, and works well if you’re not sure of someone’s marital status (or if you’d rather have it less obvious about someone being a single mother!)
Maybe Dave got Ms and Miss confused? There’s not a noticeable difference when I pronounce them because my mouth is lazy. Ms is great though. Or we could call everyone mistress out loud regardless of whether they use Ms, Mrs, or Miss since they apparently all derive from that. It’s not like we pronounce Mr as “mir.” Why are there even 3? It’s ridiculous.
People who come from more poor backgrounds, who have acquired money, may also want to “pay it on.” Because they know how hard it was and, well, now they can do that.
in the last panel, it would make more sense for Andi to say either: “i WOULD like” contracted to “I’D Like A…” (with the added “A”)… OR, to change the last word “offering” to the plural “offeringS” and keep everything else the same.
No, it’s humor, from both of them. Ken talked about a round of “peace offering” meaning a round of hot coffee, so she’s telling him what she likes in the way of peace offerings: double vanilla. But he used the singular, so she matched it.
Interesting nuance, now that you’ve pointed it out. If she’d said she WOULD like A double vanilla, that would be placing an impersonal order, almost as if Ken were a waiter. If she had said she likes double vanilla peace offerings in general (plural) that would have been correct, but neutral. Matching his facetious singular, though, conveys that she has picked up on the overtones of what he said. It is a subtly friendlier response.
Knew he would pick up the tab.
“Double Vanilla Peace Offering”
That line made me laugh so hard. XD
What is going on with Andi’s face in the last panel? She looks like a horse.
he is drawing her eyes in the top third of her face instead of resting on the midpoint. this is an extremely common mistake, typically caused by shrinking the eyes by moving the lower eyelids.
There’s personally nothing wrong with being money-blind. If you can use it to help other people, it’s better than the alternative.
We had a church trip to South Africa. Some people worried about giving others gifts because “it might be patronizing.” Uhhhh, yea, other people in South Africa are starving, but you’re worried about being patronizing. Or… maybe you’re just a greedy jerk who makes excuses not to give. I’ve not had money before and I still think given the choice, it is good to give.
But it should be your choice. I’ve gotten begged alot, and I don’t like it being assumed that I have money because I’m white. Sometimes I’m poor and can’t give anything.
It’s also not bad not to give. It’s a person’s money, they have the right to spend it as they wish. I don’t see it as greedy jerk, and personally I get offended if someone gives me money on the premise that I’m poor, they’re not, therefore they must give to me. I want to earn my money and I think that’s true of most people.
It is good to give yes, but know your audience.
The complexity of your characters is awesome. Not a one is a vanilla filler character, and I’m loving that.
Out of curiosity, I went back to find the last time that Selkie herself was the focal point of a strip. It was December. I think we really need to move things along here.
How about shh while other characters are getting development or stop reading the comic.
Good suggestion. I’m sure Dave will be pleased you’re encouraging people to just stop reading the comic instead of providing him with feedback. Thanks for helping out, LO!
Last time I checked telling someone you don’t like how a character’s getting some much needed development and wanna see more of another character,who is still getting some attention,is any better.
Yes, that is worlds better. Writers are not infallible. They make mistakes. Saying, “If you don’t like how things are progressing at this very moment, stop reading the comic,” is an awfully cruel thing to do to Dave.
Writing a character arc or at a pace that you don’t like is not a mistake. Useful feedback =/= demands to hurry up and write about the character YOU want spotlighted.
“We” are not writing this comic, Dave is.
So, how’s the cross? Light enough for you? Carry it with your knees, not your back.
Dude if you don’t like how more than the main character herself is getting some needed development…like seriously. Lots of other shows,comics and books have this.
I think about it two ways. One is that Amanda is an important character, and this is one of her “episodes”, to use a television analogy. Two is that in the long term, this is all part of Selkie’s life.
You may like the next arc better though, if you’re wanting more Selkie screen time. 🙂
I personally like people who are money blind in this way. I’ve had friends like this and loved being treated by them as I dont have to feel guilty about it. They enjoy expressing there friendship with gifts of food and drink and are not in a position where the expenditure hurts them. So I’ll enjoy there company with bonus coffee and cake care free thanks ^^
For a moment I forgot they were in coffee shop and imagined him with a big plate of hot dogs for Selkie when he said ‘a hot round of ‘peace offerings”.
Actually I think that’s more because I’ve just been thinking about hot dogs a lot lately, which is weird considering I’m vegetarian. Mmm, veggie dogs.
I kind of do it like “hey I have money right now, it’s no big deal to me”. I don’t try to buy friendships. I do try to spread it around a bit, though. A few people have taken this the wrong way (or taken advantage). Their problem, not mine.