It’s not Selkie related but I gotta share this. Little Shop of Horrors is one of my favorite movies, but I only just yesterday learned that apparently the movie was intended to have a darker ending. Check this gorgeousness that hit the cutting room floor when test audiences completely hated it:
O_o I can understand WHY it was cut, but damn it’s still cool.
Stupid ordeals...
Trouble in the Library. Hurry!
The dark LSoH ending is what the stage musical has. I prefer the happy ending but I also don’t like vast deviations from source material so I’m torn about the movie ending.
The happier movie ending is also due to the fact that stage is different from cinema — on a psychological level, the fact that the actors come out for their bows at the end (“See? They’re okay!”) tends to lessen the effect compared to a movie.
Given that it wasn’t supposed to be Shakspearean tragedy to begin with, I can understand why the ending was changed.
Additionally, the stage version makes Seymour a lot darker- He actively leads Mushnik (his adopted father by that point) to get eaten by Audrey II, and while he still can’t pull the trigger on Orin there’s a whole song there showing he had the time to save him from suffocating and chose not to. At the end (where Mean Green Mother is in the original movie ending, it was added for the film) he goes “You’re a monster, and so am I!” and it does actually apply. But the film cutting “Just the Gas” and making Seymour more sympathetic added a lot to the audience reaction.
Personally I still prefer the stage version ending, but with Mean Green Mother added. Mainly because the finale otherwise is such a last-minute addition. Not their fault on that one, of course, but.
I just looked up “Just the Gas”, and wow that’s a creepy bit.
…I kinda like the Broadway singer more than Rick Moranis, too. >_>
Yeah. Orin’s awful, but that scene is just… yeah. It’s a lot easier to accept the original ending after you see him do that. The stage version of Suppertime’s not changed too much except for Seymour telling Mushnik he put the day’s profits in the plant, which is explicitly leading him to his death.
I picked up a copy of the Broadway cast recording, and I also noticed that in the stage version Mushnik isn’t blackmailing Seymour in that scene either; he’s corralling him off to the police for Orin’s murder.
When I first saw the movie (from tv), it had that darker ending. I didn’t see the happier ending until friend found it on sale (vhs era).
Why behaving as psychopaths behave. What else?
I’m still not convinced he’s a psychopath. We’ve never seen how he interacts with or what he thinks of his parents. That would be the most telling.
Sociopath isn’t same as psychopath. Currently going with sociopath with delusions of grandeur.
I knew I probably wasn’t using the right term. 🙂 And anyway. I just assume his sociopath parents have begat sociopath son. I know there’s a nature nurture thing. But. He seems to be lacking on both sides. And having weak support in cultivating empathy can lead to a reduced brain capacity for just that. A lack of nurture helps to mold the forming brain in socially unhealthy ways. Just watched a ted talk about it. This guy want to rehabilitate murderers and stuff using cognitive therapy, cause the corresponding part of their brain is underdeveloped, but shows positive responses to certain exercises. I would assume the same principles stand during childhood development– the brain’s most malleable period. I can only guess that *if* a child has sociopathic tendencies naturally, then having evil parents isn’t going to exactly *help* the situation, even if the parents don’t see themselves as outright abusing him.
UGH! Cliffhanger! The suspense is killing me. “Does Truck go postal in front of lots of witnesses? … Tune in next week!”
I can understand why no one liked it. My suspension of disbelief will only stretch so far. Giant green sentient man-eating plants from outer space? Okay. 14 shots from a 5-shot 38?
Naaawww.
Seriously, though. That was lame. I kept hoping one of ’em would eat that little dog. Guess the dog’s name was MacGuffin.
You really need to work on your suspension of disbelief, if that went too far for you to follow. :p
Had the same problem here. Sammy has Dick Specials, which hold six, and shoots 13 out of one and 16 from the other. Ruins the dance for me. 😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk6A5sELhBQ
My gun thing is Black Widow from the Avengers movie. Is her super power teleporting new rounds into her weapon’s chamber as needed? XD
While Widow doesn’t technically have any super powers, her gun could have been modified by someone with Weapons Tinkering, or Techno-Magic, or something else along those lines. They’d just have to make her gun replicate the Projectile Creation power and bam, no reloads needed!
Of course, if that had happened, they’d’ve found a way to mention it in the movie. So it’s just another unfortunate case of movie makers believing the audience can’t count. 😉
Where? On his way to doing something very stupid.
Oh man I called it almost word for word. I hope it continues to go how I think it’ll go.
I can’t believe tom’s such an arrogant asshole, (along with the rest of these revenge kids) and I can’t believe that the trunchbulls have the staff under thier thumb like that.
Yeah that part is rather unrealistic to me. The trunchbull’s having the staff under their thumb. I went on a long rant a few pages back about the organizations that protect teachers and schools from parents like that. there is a lengthy system in place for situations like this. because i mean. just *think* of the kinds of real life drama that happens in the school. if this comic were real life, this would *not* be the first time that a parent and child has tried to bully an entire school.
ugh I wish we could edit our comments. “the kind of real life drama that happens in schools.”
Ok that is wierd, I’m a big Little Shop fan too but didn’t know they filmed an alternate ending until I saw that exact same clip for the first time yesterday – get out of my head!!!!
I strongly suspect Tony is going to end up with zero friends at the end of this arc. He’s burning bridges left, right, and centre and the sad part is I think he realises it and can’t see how to undo it.
I’m not so sure. I mean, people will be upset with him, but he’s been sticking his neck out trying to fix things, which gets noticed. Then kids will watch him to see if it sticks. Way I’ve seen and experienced this, he’d be tested, in some subtle and some nasty ways.
Okay, at least Hamud, Moonsong and Chanelle managed to keep out of this. Not sure about Ricky’s current whereabouts, but Tony is most likely part of ‘ALL OF YOU’ (just slightly off-panel just now)
Woops, forgot to draw in Tony for the crowd scenes. >_< But yeah he is part of "All of You". Ricky is hanging back out of the cluster.
Tommy’s going to the library, which is probably a new experience for him.
“And people did GET hurt BECAUSE of that fight.”
Welp. If you’re looking to change behavior, that’ll do it. I doubt those kids will ever throw snow again. Any punishment at this point is extraneous, though it’s pretty much necessary to ensure that this ordeal really is over.
In my school I learnt that there were 2 types of people: Those that said “don’t do that, it’s wrong/hurtful/dangerous/etc.”
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and those who said “don’t do that, the teacher’s watching.”
It’s very creepy that Truck has actively left the playground to literally go hunt down Selkie. “She was laughing at me, so I went to attack her.” I mean…I have to wonder how his parents or the admin could possibly spin this. Speaking as a kid who WAS cornered and beaten up in school…I’m honestly disturbed on behalf of the fictional character of Selkie!
Be more frightened for Truck. Selkie is probably stronger and has serious natural weapons. If she gets really scared she could be very dangerous
She certainly is faster which will be useful since a certain role model told her it’s better to run away. She’s also had it explained to her by multiple people not to use her “advantages” But the big deal breaker here is the library’s WARM.
And some of us are guessing that that hidden item her dad gave her was a cellphone with camera or other kind of video recording device.
Plus, the library is nice and quiet. Anything that happens should be over quickly as everyone notices the commotion, but hopefully she gets him to blurt out some damning evidence on-camera. Sweet, sweet evidence!
What Truck is doing isn´t creepy. The creepy part is that it´ll most probably fly with his parents. I´ll bet that at most they´ll scold him for “defending himself against her” in front of witnesses.
The ending of Little Shop of Horror in the movie, was mostly changed due to the screentesting. There was supposed to be a huge chaotic ending, with a ton of Audrey Two’s taking over the world, but the testing audience decided that they wanted a happy ending for Audrey and Seymour because of the large happy build up that the movie had, rather than the original ending of the play.
There’s sadly very little of the original ending footage to be found, as a lot of it was destroyed in a fire some years after the film’s release, but you can see a few saved scenes on the DVD.
The most that remains of the original ending, is the End Credit theme song, “Don’t feed the plants.”
I’m glad that the anniversary dvd now contains the original ending in the special features. I saw the old black and white film and didn’t like it not because of the ending but because he was such a …well something of a fool.
Also it’s sorta creepy how opportunistic Truck is to have slipped away like that, or else everyone was truly too caught up to see this huge kid just simply walk off.
I’m not too worried for Selkie, since she’s [A] indoors and can’t ‘underheat’ like before, [B] under adult supervision, [C] venomous. Hopefully those factors in combination should resolve the situation somehow.
Feels like his parents won’t be able to bs him out of trouble this time.
I saw a high school production of this where Seymour made a sort of Heroic Sacrafice, throwing himself down Audrey Two’s throat with a line like, “You may be tough on the outside, but I bet you’re nice and soft on the inside!” I don’t remember if they implied he succeded or if it was futile, but afterward a bunch of people came in to take cuttings.
Which could easily have lead to what happened there… though, I have a hard time believing it could get THAT out of hand.
Still, what we have there what we need to see from of big screen appearence of Poison Ivy.