There are folks too clever for their own good. A lotta folks hate on Andi, …I think they’re wrong. A lotta folks hate on Mrs. McClelland. I think they’re right. I’m very, horribly, terribly uncertain where Mr. Scar fits into the Emporeur’s plans. Or IF he sides with the Evil Umpire/vampire/Impire/fire-pyre slash smoldering backstory, …
Any Thoughts?
Heh… I honestly have no clue. Even though we see him, he’s just as much a mystery as Selkie’s mother. I think it depends on whether or not he’s really going to report back on her progress.
My two cents, as someone who reads a lot of very, very dark things, to the point where when I explain my perspective on death I give people panic attacks.
I think we will be given a legitimate reason to hate Scar at one point or another. Something truly terrible that gives us very legitimate reasons to revile him.
I do not think that he will be an evil character. I do not think he will be the enemy. I do believe the protagonists (Selkie, Todd, etc) will have a moment of believing that he is.
Normally I’m screaming betrayal up, down, left and right in every which way on every which character, but in this one instance to me, I would be genuinely surprised (Right now, developments in writing nine months from now might prove me wrong) if Scar turned out to be a major antagonist, or even secondary antagonist in this piece.
Yeah, Dave’s developed a core aesthetic for this comic that nearly excludes actual villains. Every character we’ve encountered who seems evil gets more understandable and relatable as the tale delves into their side of things; it doesn’t excuse their actions, but they are usually, in some fashion, proven to be not complete monsters, and generally capable of remorse, change, growth.
I recall the only exception (so far) being the principal who got replaced. And even he had a kid, which humanized him (slightly).
I know that a lot of people hate on Andi and/or her mom, but I find both characters flawed but relatable.
If I recall correctly, Andi’s mom had seen her life derailed with an unexpected kid, and never recovered; her resistance to Amanda seemed partly her own trauma and partly the hope of not seeing her daughter go through the same trouble. (The way she overrode Andi’s autonomy during a crucial moment was Very Bad, but she didn’t seem to be doing it from malice so much as the misguided belief that it was better for both parties.)
Andi making some indefensible decisions while herself in a vulnerable position, and then finding herself trapped by those initial decisions until it seemed like she couldn’t ever reverse them (but then, ultimately, attempting to reverse them despite the fallout), that’s still relatable. Neither of them seem like Villains or deliberately malicious.
With that background (having seen the Big Bully, the Traumatized Bully, the Horrible Ex-Girlfriend, and so on redeemed or humanized), I, too, would find it mostly out of keeping with the tone of this piece, were Scar to prove himself a villain now. As opposed to having been a villain in the past, which would be fully in keeping with this tale’s love for redemption and character growth.
I can’t think of another tale with this great a focus on “nobody’s really a bad guy, even if they’ve made some terrible decisions” — which does make me wonder about the ultimate explanation/fate of the guy who just conquered the Sarnothi homeland….
Yeah, I think the “evil Echoes” thing could come up. Selkie likes the idea of supervillainy, but just the window dressing, so to speak – she reads as a good, generally kind if snarky kid overall. Real evil and terrorism, I get the sense bother her. As they should. My take anyway.
There are folks too clever for their own good. A lotta folks hate on Andi, …I think they’re wrong. A lotta folks hate on Mrs. McClelland. I think they’re right. I’m very, horribly, terribly uncertain where Mr. Scar fits into the Emporeur’s plans. Or IF he sides with the Evil Umpire/vampire/Impire/fire-pyre slash smoldering backstory, …
Any Thoughts?
Heh… I honestly have no clue. Even though we see him, he’s just as much a mystery as Selkie’s mother. I think it depends on whether or not he’s really going to report back on her progress.
My two cents, as someone who reads a lot of very, very dark things, to the point where when I explain my perspective on death I give people panic attacks.
I think we will be given a legitimate reason to hate Scar at one point or another. Something truly terrible that gives us very legitimate reasons to revile him.
I do not think that he will be an evil character. I do not think he will be the enemy. I do believe the protagonists (Selkie, Todd, etc) will have a moment of believing that he is.
Normally I’m screaming betrayal up, down, left and right in every which way on every which character, but in this one instance to me, I would be genuinely surprised (Right now, developments in writing nine months from now might prove me wrong) if Scar turned out to be a major antagonist, or even secondary antagonist in this piece.
Yeah, Dave’s developed a core aesthetic for this comic that nearly excludes actual villains. Every character we’ve encountered who seems evil gets more understandable and relatable as the tale delves into their side of things; it doesn’t excuse their actions, but they are usually, in some fashion, proven to be not complete monsters, and generally capable of remorse, change, growth.
I recall the only exception (so far) being the principal who got replaced. And even he had a kid, which humanized him (slightly).
I know that a lot of people hate on Andi and/or her mom, but I find both characters flawed but relatable.
If I recall correctly, Andi’s mom had seen her life derailed with an unexpected kid, and never recovered; her resistance to Amanda seemed partly her own trauma and partly the hope of not seeing her daughter go through the same trouble. (The way she overrode Andi’s autonomy during a crucial moment was Very Bad, but she didn’t seem to be doing it from malice so much as the misguided belief that it was better for both parties.)
Andi making some indefensible decisions while herself in a vulnerable position, and then finding herself trapped by those initial decisions until it seemed like she couldn’t ever reverse them (but then, ultimately, attempting to reverse them despite the fallout), that’s still relatable. Neither of them seem like Villains or deliberately malicious.
With that background (having seen the Big Bully, the Traumatized Bully, the Horrible Ex-Girlfriend, and so on redeemed or humanized), I, too, would find it mostly out of keeping with the tone of this piece, were Scar to prove himself a villain now. As opposed to having been a villain in the past, which would be fully in keeping with this tale’s love for redemption and character growth.
I can’t think of another tale with this great a focus on “nobody’s really a bad guy, even if they’ve made some terrible decisions” — which does make me wonder about the ultimate explanation/fate of the guy who just conquered the Sarnothi homeland….
Will Selkie ask him about the “farmer” stuff?
I feel like she’s gonna ask him about good and “evils”…
Yeah, I think the “evil Echoes” thing could come up. Selkie likes the idea of supervillainy, but just the window dressing, so to speak – she reads as a good, generally kind if snarky kid overall. Real evil and terrorism, I get the sense bother her. As they should. My take anyway.