If I (mentally) scribbled my timeline notes right, Andi started calling a little less than a week before the adoption day, and this meeting was put off until they had a chance to talk without child’s ears around, so it’s been almost three weeks since the adoption day.
Amazing how I stretched three weeks over a year and a half.
I mentioned in Andi's cast page entry that she has an in-progress back tattoo themed around the Epic of Gilgamesh. I wanted to get at least one shot of it worked in. I think it will probably become a continuity nightmare. XD
I’m kind of thinking that Andi left because Todd was talking about wanting kids.
Now I want to know more about why they broke up.
Me too, it sounds like she really liked him.
Me too! I mean nine years!!! Even if they were just friends for most of it that’s a long time to know someone.
In re: to your Director’s Commentary, I don’t think it’ll be a continuity nightmare, I think it’ll be a great chance to see how much the audience is paying attention, IE, changing it per your whim a la Jennie Breeden and her Devil’s Panties con posters… they’re never the same thing twice, and you could do the same thing with Andi’s tat, with the original preserved for posterity somewhere?? Great comic, and I’m with Terah; why did they break up?
two weeks/a year isn’t a bad rate. i know of a number of notable webcomics that are lucky to get one day done in under a year.
Hey, if Jeph Jacques can keep remembering to draw Dora’s “lake of fire” and Faye’s scar, you can surely keep up with the Gilgamest tattoo.
*Gilgamesh
Yay, I can type!
It looks more like Alex, Nastajia, and Paddington Rumblebottom from Dreamland Chronicles.
Of course I said that BEFORE reading the transcript. Oops.
:p I never noticed you could open up te transcript before. Dreamland Chronicles was my guess as well. =^.^=
That is EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
…what about the transcript?
Nine years?
Okay, now I’m curious.
Wow. Andi’s kind of tall. 🙂 Nine years. Makes sense now why Todd’s parents had an affection for Andi. After that kind of time your ex-SO’s parents either love you like one of their own and grieve after the breakup, or hate your guts and throw a little party.
At a guess… she said something derogatory about adoption. Something reallyderogatory.
Like, calling it “not real”.
I think your right Danny. Given his personality, the only thing that could make him that angry is calling the family he grew up with, “not a real family.”
BTW Dave, when we going to get to see his brother and sister again? Perhaps a family reunion soon?
Eventually, yes! Introducing Selkie to her aunt and uncle is my plan for a between-story arcs short.
Oh dear.
Todd, you’re really going to have to eat it now.
is it bad it took me 3 comics and backtracking one to notice shes waring a skirt?
no that the skirt is significant, i just by nature assume anything off screen is shirt and pants.
Wow. Serious Angst-burgers.
Dave, this *really* feels out of character for Todd, unless Andi did something like running over his puppy with a Harley and saying “meh” afterwards. Andi must have *really* done something horrible to make Todd give up after 9 years, especially if he has the tenacity to go through the hell that is a single parent adoption.
I mean, after 9 years with *my* girlfriend, I married her. I would have assumed Todd and Andi would be in that frame of mind.
Not necessarily, but it’ll be interesting to find out what the reason is. I was with someone for six years (and engaged) and it didn’t work out, and there are people break up and/or get divorced all the time after being together even longer than Todd and Andi. The not wanting kids thing can be a real dealbreaker, but hard to want to break up over, and it’s the type of thing that can change as you get older. She does strike me as immature, too.
Unless they fought a lot or the love just died. A friend of mine left his partner of 17 years a couple of years back; the love had just faded away from his side – he said he felt like he was more and more living in a lie, even if he hadn’t had any affairs. It wouldn’t have been honest towards his partner to continue the relationship as it had become one-sided. And they co-owned an apartment, 2 cats and a lot of stuff, despite never getting married it was a divorce more than anything. They spent almost a year of not really talking to one another afterwards, but then returned to being friends.
From the Todd-Andi interaction I feel like Todd would’ve wanted more time without her to get accustomed to being on his own. I don’t know which ended the relationship in the end, but Andi’s harassment via the phone hasn’t gone over well most obviously. I wish she’d butt out and let Todd and Selkie form a family in peace.
(And yeah, her apparent attitude towards adoption obviously isn’t helping the situation.)
I´m not sure this is actually Andi´s attitude towards adoption… it might be that it is “only” her attitude towards the person who got between herself and Todd. I think she´d act the same if instead of Selkie there was a new girlfriend.
Let´s say Todd split up with her because he wanted kids (adopted or otherwise) and she didn´t; all those months she thought he´d see the light and come back to her, but now he has gone through with the adoption, and Selkie is the one thing (okay, the one *person*) making sure he won´t come back to her.
He can do better.
In lieu of the other comments I’ve seen, I think there may be a high possibility of Andi being the kind of woman who doesn’t want to have kids, whether it be now, 10 years from now or never. Just a thought that popped up in my head…
Although since we haven’t gotten that far into it yet, I don’t exactly know what to make of what happened and what will happen. I guess all I can do is wait…
Is it Monday yet? D:
between her hair and clothes, I could be off base, but she looks like the kind of person who doesn’t want become an adult as far as the responsibility part is concerned. My guess is, she looks at her life and doesn’t feel she has had all the fun she can have without kids yet.
Todd on the other hand seems like he has had enough of the kidless life and realizes that he doesn’t want to be 70 when his kids graduate high school.
That’s pretty much what I keep thinking: the breakup was simply because he grew up and now wants adult things in life, and she didn’t. And he’s annoyed with her mostly because she just won’t let it go.
Why can’t I add your site to my RSS feed? 🙁
never mind ^^;
This is the kind of panel that makes me wish you could update every day.
😛
You know, I don’t think this is out of character for Todd. He seems like a really nice guy for sure, but even nice guys have their limits. Given some of the messages we’ve heard from Andi, she’s coming across as pretty b*tchy, controlling and (from the comments about Selkie’s picture) kind of mean. Nine years of dealing with her may have been the outside of enough for him.
I assume Andi didn’t want kids and Todd did. There’s nothing wrong with either viewpoint, but that’s the sort of thing that can wreck a relationship.
Or it could be that Todd wanted to adopt, given the way his family worked out, and Andi wanted her own. Again, nothing all that wrong with either viewpoint, but the desires there are conflicting.
Is that… a tattoo of Thundarr The Barbarian on her back???
They both have incredibly dorky tatoos.
The only real problem with Andi’s argument is that it wasn’t just her life. When you are part of a couple then there has to be compromise. It is very obvious that Todd wanted children and that Andi did not. That sort of thing is bound to break up a relationship if the couple can’t come to some kind of compromise, even if it means just getting a small dog in order to test the waters a bit first.
I was probably more than just that. Whatever drama that occurred I think it was likely that whoever said it’s over Andi is the one who ended it. Whether she did it with an ultimatum or just said things weren’t working out… I don’t think Todd is the kind of person to hold a grudge if it isn’t merited. Andi seems really selfish with the way she’s talking about this. I’ve known women like this. They say the relationship isn’t what they want and end it but then when the consequences hit they try to backtrack and “salvage” things. Worst girlfriend I ever had cheated on me because I wasn’t good enough and then months later tried to walk back into my life. It didn’t go well and she sounded a lot like Andi does. I expect her “me”fest to continue for another page or two.
Is it just me, or does she seem to not like selkie? I mean, she’s never met selkie, but instead of replying to Todd saying she’s a good kid, Andi asks if she has webbed hands. Does that say something?
It does seem Andi is critical of Selkie. When Todd says she’s a good kid, she goes with “Are those webbed hands?” it comes off a bit as “But she’s got webbed hands…” in response to “She’s a good kid.”. Anyway. She’s coming off as a bit annoying. If I were Todd. I’d want to get to the point also. I can definately understand Todd’s anger. She came to HIS house. Comments on his kid,ignores him when he says she is a good kid and continues to comment on the kid and when he asks her what she came there for, SHE gets angry….yup. Not just a bit, she annoys me ALOT.
Oh and the way she dresses, it bothers me. There are people out there who wear combats boots and have a “goth” look, or other looks they maybe deemed to old for, but they keep it appropriate and know when they need to change it up for whatever reason(jobs,etc.) Unless you’re swimming, or working out, tops like that, just for everyday life don’t exactly scream “appropriate” or “I’m an Adult who is ready for life.” She seems like she hasn’t grown up….I don’t know, perhaps we’re thinking this too deeply. ANYWAY I CANNOT wait for the next page.
The clothing doesn’t bother me. One can dress like a businesswoman and still be a bitch, one can dress like a hippie and be a great person – and the tattoos, well, we all express ourselves in different ways.
It’s what Andi’s expressing verbally which makes me think that yeah, her unresolved issues are more of her own making than of Todd’s, and that she isn’t mature enough not to see Selkie as the threat instead of her own behaviour.
I agree 100 % with all of you but I can’t help but play Devil’s Advocate and suggest that maybe we’re biased towards Todd. I mean we’ve only seen positive aspects of his character and negative aspects of Andi’s. That doesn’t necessarily mean that’s all there is to see. I mean I seriously doubt that Todd did anything horrible but he may not be entirely faultless either. Just an idea.