Giselle living that Glass House life.
Not comic related, but I’ve had a resurgence of personal interest lately in the band Coheed and Cambria, so… have a music video featuring surgery.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnTmP_zB5Dc
Today's comic was reader-inspired, round-aboutly. In a much earlier comic, one of the other classmates referred to Giselle by a shortened form of her name, "Gis". And I had frankly not at all sounded out in spoken form how that sounded, but it didn't take long for a reader to comment, "Should they be calling her such a rude word?" So now we have this thing.
I don’t know if I am ignorant or not, but all I can think of for Gis is GIS, which is Geographic Informational Systems. Possible that I have grown up under a rock though.
Giselle is a French name, so the G is pronounced like a J.
That still doesn’t make any se
OH.
I’ve usually heard it with the German pronunciation: a hard G and three syllables “ghee-se-le (or -lah)”. I have heard “jee-zell,” but never thought about the spelling. They do use the same spelling in Germany, and I spent almost four years there thanks to Uncle Sam.
In the usual French/English speaking pronunciation, the stress is usually on the 2nd syllable, so it’s more like:
“jiz-ZEL”
…Although the French starts with a much softer “g” sound… I suppose it doesn’t matter that much. Selkie’s joke would fall a little flat without it though.
How do you get a dirty world by shortening Giselle?
If you pronounce her name as Jiselle and then shorten it, you get jizz. Took me a second because I always read it as being pronounced with the soft g instead of a j. (gih vs jih)
Also in my language, “izel” translates as afterbirth with a very negative connotation, so she’s got a good bookending of vulgarities to work with.
Uh, soft g IS a j sound, as in gesture and gin.
HARD g is the g in give or guitar.
“When I get big I’m going to get a job spelling.” — Linus
Ah, thanks, I was wondering how “Elle” was a dirty word.
I’ll admit, it took me a moment to get it.
But do eight-year-old kids REALLY know slang terms for male ejaculate?
As someone who works with kids age 1 to 10 i can safely tell you: yes they do. they do and know even worse stuff.
Just remembering when Amanda broke her Game Kid, and Keisha’s shocked swear – CHEESE AND RICE!!!!!
They don’t know “Jesus Christ”, but they know “jiz”?
It may be that Keisha misheard someone else using Jesus Christ ad an oath, or that she doesn’t like to use His name in such a way (some people, even as kids, are like that), or even that she doesn’t like swearing, and caught herself. Jizz, on the other hand, is hard to mishear. Kids as a whole do also tend to have the oddest gaps in their knowledge when it comes to things Adults don’t want to teach them.
Probably heard one of the adults using that, and it has a good ring to it, so… (Plus even if you know the real words, you don’t want the adults catching you using them. E.g., “fudge” instead of ****…)
The orphanage kids have had the importance of minced oaths drilled into them extra hard. “If you cuss, you won’t get adopted.”
If someone has called Giselle by the shortened form as a nickname before, it’s possible an adult reprimanded them and that’s how the kids came to learn it was a dirty word.
There’s also the possibility that Selkie (and Giselle) learned about it from some older kids or just in that magical way that kids learn things you wouldn’t think they’d know. Non-slang example, one time I was working with a second grade class, and one boy said to another, “I’m gonna kill you and make it look like accidental asphyxiation.” (I dealt with the death threat part, of course, but a part of me was initially pretty caught up in the word choice.)
Was he one of the Smother brothers?
Yeah I didn’t get the slang either until I read the comments, but now Selkie has to explain to the rest of the class that she’s not into girls, that is if it’s true, I mean she’s eight so she doesn’t know yet.
She just needs to explain she’s not into Teh Fahn.
Nah deflecting like Selkie is doing is a good way to get the kids distracted & the gossip mill will move on–we are fairly short-memoried as a species
This. Especially as kids. Raising deflector shields is not only a good way, but the best move.
@Mikael and Alphaghou: Trying to prove she’s not into Te Fahn or girls in general would, somewhat counterintuitively, only serve to reinforce the perception that she is, in fact, into Te Fahn. Kids tend to take protesting such things as a sign that they’re true, largely because kids, especially at that age, generally have yet to gain the maturity and wisdom to understand that being wrong is not always a bad thing and that there’s value in admitting you’re wrong and learning from it.
Her best course of action is probably just to pretend the whole thing never happened, and eventually everyone will stop making fun of her and/or Te Fahn when it becomes obvious they aren’t Together. Right?
You mean emotional maturity? That explains entitled parents, sjws, and so many other people we like complaining about.
What do you expect from a society that has made growing up optional and is trying to make growing old a thing of the past? When you idolise and idealise childhood and youth, of course you will make society childish as a result.
Not all eight year olds don’t know yet. (Which always makes me make o_O faces, because I was pretty much ace-aro till 15 and can’t really grok the idea of romantic/whatever feelings before that, but I have it on good authority that some kids at least know if they aspire to girlfriends or boyfriends.)
Now, Selkie… doesn’t seem to have much opinion on the matter!
-I- think Giselle is just envious that Selkie has a ‘Besty’ friend. A buddy will cheer you up u on, -’cause it’s cheap. A best friend will steal $60–$80 from Dad to make you feel loved, if they thought you needed that.
I’m still hoping Georgie hasn’t hurt Te’ Fahn’s feelings too badly. That is goona scare me as it resolves; as in not looking forward to that.
this whole time, ive been pronouncing her name similarly to “gazelle” oh no…… and as cute as i think selkie/te fahn are i know its not gonna be a thing, but seeing them on friendly terms is rly good after all that drama. i hope jessie isnt gonna have the wrong idea though,,
I wonder how much Zootopia has an influence on that.
Kestrel: That IS how Gisselle is pronounced. Jih-Zell rhymes with Gah-Zell.
I think Kestrel meant “Gih-Zell”, as opposed to “Jih-Zell” when they said they were pronouncing her name similarly to gazelle.
It starts with the “g” in “GIF”. :trollface:
Why, why would you do that, why would you start that war
Come now, Dave, there’s no war to start. Steve Wilhite, the guy who invented the GIF format, picked the name as a pun on the peanut butter brand Jif and said explicitly it was intended to be pronounced as a soft-g sound.
And he is completely wrong and the only reasonable way to pronounce it is as a hard g.
There’s nothing to discuss, you say it as the G in Graphics Interchange Format.
G is always soft before an E or I.
In unrelated news, my girlfriend gives me the finger when I forget to get her a gift.
We all know Selkie is a huge fan of ballistic mineralogy.
I’ve been pronouncing her as GEE-zell-uh (hard G) in my head (I’ve only known German women with that name, so…) so I also was struggling with what about the shortening could be bad…
Aaaaaaaa I love Coheed, I’ve seen them live 13 times. Afterman is so underrated!
They’re on my bucket list to see live one day. I missed my chance to see Mars Volta live, don’t want to be saying that about Coheed and Cambria.
And the Afterman duo may be my favorite albums. I loved the sound of the previous ones, but never felt the push to delve deeper into the mythos until I got into Afterman.
Frances the Mute is one of my favorite albums – it’s tremendous. I think Afterman has the best story, followed very closely by the first Good Apollo album. I like the concept of The Writing Writer and Ten Speed. I’m very excited to see where the new stuff goes, I really liked Unheavenly Creatures.
I was absolutely *obsessed* with Coheed as a teenager.
The whole discussion has been eaten by the ‘Giselle’ discussion. I need to point everyone to panel 3. Particularly Selkie’s expression! They really are friends! Only people who are already friends could have an exchange like that, especially with Selkie’s snarky sort of smile at the end.
And that panel is a standout example at how good you’re getting at facial expressions. I can hear the way Selkie is saying that just from seeing her expression.
Honestly, the one making it worse is JESSIE! She seriously needs to shut up and butt out and stop drawing attention to something that isn’t there because of her own sexuality. She is really pushing the lesbian thing here and making very large assumptions. She needs to DROP IT and leave them alone. Be a teacher and make sure the other kids don’t make fun of them! Don’t draw attention to them and make accusations over something you don’t know. She’s really upsetting me here because her own views are getting in the way and potentially damaging both these girls and causing problems they don’t need right now.
When you’re a hammer, everything is a nail.
What?