Its an OOOOLD World of Warcraft meme that hunters were so over Powered and had so many moves they could just roll their face across the keyboard to win. They said the same thing about Paladins and just about every OTHER character combo at one point or another
Yeah, but it was never less true for hunters. Close range combat was all about surviving long enough to get back to range and long range combat… they could top the charts with a lot of work but usually that was a temporary spot. Anytime they did have an advantage it was taken away in a hurry. Like when Wraith of the Lich King came out and their dps formula was “broken” because no one at Blizzard thought anyone would play them past level 60.
Actually, Stephen, hunters had/have been notably easier to play in a lot of ways for a long time. They’re balanced well enough in higher end gameplay, but in solo/leveling/more casual content, it really can be fairly faceroll.
I never experienced them when they used mana, but after they got Focus, they never ran out of their energy in the way a mana user could. Their pets by default would taunt enemy targets, preventing the hunter from being attacked in solo content. They had/have amazing combat mobility and long range attacks, easily allowing them to continue attacking even while moving – something most ranged classes haven’t been able to do (for very long before getting nerfed to hell). Feign Death allowed them to get out of combat if their pet died and/or something went horribly wrong. Healing/reviving the pet was easy and quick.
The pet tanking thing is easily the biggest part of what made it easy, and it’s not as if these pet tanks were super watered down versions either – I remember switching pets midfight during Cataclysm heroics if the tank died and pulling off a win that way. Also used it to some degree in MoP LFR; pet taunts didn’t work on bosses obviously but any boss mechanics that involved a swarm of enemies (most notably, Nazgrim) were fair game. It was more useful than using Misdirect to turn them against one of the raid tanks, because if I Misdirected my pet there was no 30 second cooldown on MD. They weren’t as good as real tanks, but they were sturdier than most non-tank players.
Most other classes play very differently, especially to beginners. Melee characters will obviously take a fair bit of damage in solo combat, and getting around that involves knowing how to stun/etc. enemies, use your self-healing moves, and killing them quickly before they can spend a lot of time damaging you. Ranged characters are generally about slowing/immobilizing/etc. enemies to keep them at a distance long enough to kill them, and they fare really poorly if they have multiple enemies beating on them because of the way being hit makes spells take longer to cast.
But with a pet tank as a buffer/automatic damage source you can basically just use one single ability and you’ll rarely be in trouble with solo content.
Only one other class has a pet tank, and warlocks are infamous for being one of the two classes the developers basically just never understand – they’re often not fun to play, and even when they do get fixed they just get broken again in the next patch/expansion. Probably most infamously, WoW finally had a passionate warlock developer during Mists, who (among other things) pushed for a lore-heavy, tough warlock quest with an awesome cosmetic reward. Several lore-heavy, super iconic skills featured in this quest were eventually stripped away for the Demon Hunter class, while most of the abilities that featured the cosmetic change were also removed – at one point, one of the warlock specializations didn’t even have a single skill that featured it.
So, yeah. Not that WoW’s casual/solo content is all that hard, but if there were ever a class for young kids to safely play said content on, it is definitely the hunter.
Ahhhh, I remember when I was stun-shotting a paladin in Warsong Gulch — he kept advancing and I’d skitter back a teeny bit and keep shooting him so he couldn’t run, couldn’t kill me, and couldn’t do a thing about my BIG RED KITTY.
Whether your a healer or a tank, your focused on saving people. So if he is a tank, I am thinking Warrior, so in his DPS offspec he can pretend to just rage through everything and not think.
Some twenty seven years ago I discovered that I could not nurse the baby and read a book at the same time. š The baby was a thrasher, you see, and his little feet would kick the under side of the book. I went into painful withdrawal from my reading addiction. And the little guy nursed a lot – as in about four hours of nursing during the day time.
Then I discovered I could play Civilization on the computer while nursing. He attained his first year in the greenish glow of a screen that displayed well irrigated farmland.
Three years later it was World of Warcraft single player, (no online version available then) that taught him his alphabet. Being a mere cherub, he played on easy with the use of cheat codes. And in order to get a new refill of coins to pay for his construction he needed someone to come to the computer and type in the cheat code “Glittering prizes”. His Dad and I got frustrated with going to the computer every five to fifteen minutes to help him out so we started yelling from the next room, “G- middle row! L – middle row! I – top row! T- top row! T again! E – top row!…”
I still recall having my nephews on my lap (one at a time, but they were twin toddlers) while trying to teach them Harvest Moon. I’d assign them one single button, but they wouldn’t know when NOT to press it. So I’d be harvesting tomatoes like “Okay, now press it… now DON’T press it… not until I get to the– argh, dang it, not yet! Okay, this time, don’t press it until I get to the bin–”
Eventually I’d grab their arm and hold it up until I was standing at the bin.
It mildly annoys me that neither one of them remembers this, even though I did it a fair amount while babysitting them. Oh well, at least they recall me singing them to sleep in their cribs ^_^
Point of order! (Nerd alert)
World of Warcraft was not released until 2004, 24 years ago you would have, instead been playing Warcraft: Orcs vs. Humans
And while you wouldnāt have been able to play it with so many people at once, even the original version had online player. Multiplayer matches over modem or local network were part of the original game! It was far from āMassiveā in fact as only two players could compete with each other.
Wyrmrest Accord, you say? That’s my stomping grounds too. Can usually catch me slow-falling off the terrace of the Great Seal towards the crafters tier because stairs are for plebs.
If this isnāt allowed, Dave, then please go ahead and delete it for me?
But since you said you stomp around on WyrmrestAccord then maybe you would like to say hi at some point? My charās name Horde side is Azagh. He generally runs around in Ghost Wolf form when at the Great Seal taking advantage of Gonkās Totems. I think it would be awesome to at least be able to say hi to one of my favorite famous people!
I actually had my daughter roll a goblin hunter as her first toon, because they’re so easy and the goblins are cute and i knew she’d get a kick out of their start zone. Then she wanted to try a troll druid, too. We also rolled 2 undead hunters together at her request.
My son’s main is a demon hunter, and he has an UD hunter he’s trying to lvl up
I’ve got elemental shaman, fire mage, feral druid, shadow priest (all trolls), undead warlock (cuz i made him before trolls could be warlocks), and goblin hunter.
Nope, sorry. I just don’t have the patience or eye-hand coordination for video gaming. (The only videogame that I ever lasted more than a few minutes in was the original “DooM” and that’s only because I played wingman to a relative expert — who, by the way, had the patience of a saint…)
Sigh…. I’m surrounded by Horde scum wherever I go…. *grumble grumble* bunch of warmongering monsters…. burn down my tree….. kick me out of Suramar…
I love that whole family plays together.
lol In all seriousness it is a bit unfair that technically the Horde gains two capital cities with the Highmountain and Nightborne. Heck the Horde technically controls the Broken Isles because other than the Vrykul their only opposition are a fistful of druids, some ghosts, and ONE Gilnean village. Honestly why they didnt start the war by invading Stormheim is beyond me since that would give them the chance to capture more of the Val’kyr and raise more “more powerful” undead (remember the undead vrykul in WoTLK?)
I’m a Horde player since Vanilla (except for a stint as Alliance during WotLK), but I can’t help but feel like the Alliance is getting really overlooked on everything right now. Horde got the first Warfront, we’re hosting the first two raids, we have actual mounts and not re-skinned horses… >_>
And the Nightborne/Highmountain thing really confuses me seeing as BOTH factions supported and helped them out. It would have been more sensible to make them Neutral races like the Pandaren.
I mained Alliance (NH hunter) back when I played (WoW clean for 10 years, where do I get my pin). But yeah, even then felt like the developers cared as much about the Alliance as the Horde.
I never played, wasn’t interested, which was strange, because I played the crap out of the original Warcraft and Warcraft II, not to mention the StarCraft(s). I did, however, watch my teenage, and later, adult son play WoW beside me, so I got to watch it a lot. Later I got my MMO fix playing SWOTOR and later FF14.
I’ve been a bit of a game hopper over the years. I come back to WoW every expansion and usually mess around fora month then go to something else. BFA is really holding me so far though, might try to stick this one out. Uldir is fun.
But what I really have my heart set on is seeing City of Titans get up and going. It’s a sliver of hope, but I still have it.
I am a working stiff, which means I never had enough money for a computer that was new. I’d buy some guys broken laptop and fix it; which meant either– lots of ram and bad video card, or, great agp-video and crap ram. So I could never buy games when they came out, and really didn’t like that folks would come to work on 5 hours, or four, or three hours of sleep. They were genuine Zombies, in that all they could do was grouse about how tired they were, and then about how late they were going to be up tonight for their campaign. I played Myst through to Riven, and gave up.
I’ve never used oil paints or stone sculpture, but I have tried just about any other art form and media you can name. I’ve enjoyed it, and I have a house full of Art. And you meet some Really Fun People in art class!
Which is only minor league grousing about people who spent a wagonload of cash (a month’s salary for me) on an Alienware system, (back before Dell bought them up). Minor envy, but I have really lost out on popular culture with folks 20-40 years younger than me. I’m ancient but I Am up to date with Tech, just out of touch with this … uh … “gaming stuff”. Back in my day, you’d rolls yer dice (4-6-8-10-12-20) and Lord Gygax would have a law/rule for the DM to use. Was it in Chainmail or Gray Hawk?
Make your saving throw or Die, Orc-scum!
On my grave stone, I want carved in stone: “you are eaten by a gru.”
I fell in love with Warcraft franchise back when Warcraft 1 was on a shareware disc way back when. Played all the games and bought WoW the day it came out as a late birthday present. While I don’t play now due to my comp is literally 9 years old and is so out of date, I still follow the lore probably will until Blizz decides to pull the plug. I miss playing but dropping $1200 for a system that won’t be needing upgrades within a year just isn’t in the budget for awhile. Have fun in Azeroth for me!
Is that feral after Hunter OP or something else?
Hunters are OP and Face roll.
Its an OOOOLD World of Warcraft meme that hunters were so over Powered and had so many moves they could just roll their face across the keyboard to win. They said the same thing about Paladins and just about every OTHER character combo at one point or another
Thanks. Knew the joke about face roll but couldn’t interpret it out of fay roll for some reason. -_-;;
Yeah, but it was never less true for hunters. Close range combat was all about surviving long enough to get back to range and long range combat… they could top the charts with a lot of work but usually that was a temporary spot. Anytime they did have an advantage it was taken away in a hurry. Like when Wraith of the Lich King came out and their dps formula was “broken” because no one at Blizzard thought anyone would play them past level 60.
Actually, Stephen, hunters had/have been notably easier to play in a lot of ways for a long time. They’re balanced well enough in higher end gameplay, but in solo/leveling/more casual content, it really can be fairly faceroll.
I never experienced them when they used mana, but after they got Focus, they never ran out of their energy in the way a mana user could. Their pets by default would taunt enemy targets, preventing the hunter from being attacked in solo content. They had/have amazing combat mobility and long range attacks, easily allowing them to continue attacking even while moving – something most ranged classes haven’t been able to do (for very long before getting nerfed to hell). Feign Death allowed them to get out of combat if their pet died and/or something went horribly wrong. Healing/reviving the pet was easy and quick.
The pet tanking thing is easily the biggest part of what made it easy, and it’s not as if these pet tanks were super watered down versions either – I remember switching pets midfight during Cataclysm heroics if the tank died and pulling off a win that way. Also used it to some degree in MoP LFR; pet taunts didn’t work on bosses obviously but any boss mechanics that involved a swarm of enemies (most notably, Nazgrim) were fair game. It was more useful than using Misdirect to turn them against one of the raid tanks, because if I Misdirected my pet there was no 30 second cooldown on MD. They weren’t as good as real tanks, but they were sturdier than most non-tank players.
Most other classes play very differently, especially to beginners. Melee characters will obviously take a fair bit of damage in solo combat, and getting around that involves knowing how to stun/etc. enemies, use your self-healing moves, and killing them quickly before they can spend a lot of time damaging you. Ranged characters are generally about slowing/immobilizing/etc. enemies to keep them at a distance long enough to kill them, and they fare really poorly if they have multiple enemies beating on them because of the way being hit makes spells take longer to cast.
But with a pet tank as a buffer/automatic damage source you can basically just use one single ability and you’ll rarely be in trouble with solo content.
Only one other class has a pet tank, and warlocks are infamous for being one of the two classes the developers basically just never understand – they’re often not fun to play, and even when they do get fixed they just get broken again in the next patch/expansion. Probably most infamously, WoW finally had a passionate warlock developer during Mists, who (among other things) pushed for a lore-heavy, tough warlock quest with an awesome cosmetic reward. Several lore-heavy, super iconic skills featured in this quest were eventually stripped away for the Demon Hunter class, while most of the abilities that featured the cosmetic change were also removed – at one point, one of the warlock specializations didn’t even have a single skill that featured it.
So, yeah. Not that WoW’s casual/solo content is all that hard, but if there were ever a class for young kids to safely play said content on, it is definitely the hunter.
Ahhhh, I remember when I was stun-shotting a paladin in Warsong Gulch — he kept advancing and I’d skitter back a teeny bit and keep shooting him so he couldn’t run, couldn’t kill me, and couldn’t do a thing about my BIG RED KITTY.
Ah, those were the days.
Hunter OP .. Face Roll.
Good lord I laughed. š
I’m so proud of them, just…so proud<3 start them early and they'll love it for life.
Esoteric comic is esoteric. Je’ ne comprends pas.
World of Warcraft joke. And I appreciate the change of name to match the statement. š
Duw, I’m relieved to hear that from someone- I conjectured they were speaking Sarnothi!!
Best family ever ^^
Whether your a healer or a tank, your focused on saving people. So if he is a tank, I am thinking Warrior, so in his DPS offspec he can pretend to just rage through everything and not think.
Nope that’s a Tauren Paladin tank…
Tauren tank, Tauren or BE caster of some sort and an Orc hunter maybe (BM or MM?)…
Tauren Warrior, Orc Hunter, Troll Priest.
I think Pohl’s Tauren is a paladin (note the shield).
Protection warriors also use shields
Some twenty seven years ago I discovered that I could not nurse the baby and read a book at the same time. š The baby was a thrasher, you see, and his little feet would kick the under side of the book. I went into painful withdrawal from my reading addiction. And the little guy nursed a lot – as in about four hours of nursing during the day time.
Then I discovered I could play Civilization on the computer while nursing. He attained his first year in the greenish glow of a screen that displayed well irrigated farmland.
Three years later it was World of Warcraft single player, (no online version available then) that taught him his alphabet. Being a mere cherub, he played on easy with the use of cheat codes. And in order to get a new refill of coins to pay for his construction he needed someone to come to the computer and type in the cheat code “Glittering prizes”. His Dad and I got frustrated with going to the computer every five to fifteen minutes to help him out so we started yelling from the next room, “G- middle row! L – middle row! I – top row! T- top row! T again! E – top row!…”
Ha ha ha! Warcraft taught him to type, I love it.
The family that plays together, stays together!
I still recall having my nephews on my lap (one at a time, but they were twin toddlers) while trying to teach them Harvest Moon. I’d assign them one single button, but they wouldn’t know when NOT to press it. So I’d be harvesting tomatoes like “Okay, now press it… now DON’T press it… not until I get to the– argh, dang it, not yet! Okay, this time, don’t press it until I get to the bin–”
Eventually I’d grab their arm and hold it up until I was standing at the bin.
It mildly annoys me that neither one of them remembers this, even though I did it a fair amount while babysitting them. Oh well, at least they recall me singing them to sleep in their cribs ^_^
Point of order! (Nerd alert)
World of Warcraft was not released until 2004, 24 years ago you would have, instead been playing Warcraft: Orcs vs. Humans
And while you wouldnāt have been able to play it with so many people at once, even the original version had online player. Multiplayer matches over modem or local network were part of the original game! It was far from āMassiveā in fact as only two players could compete with each other.
I mostly main an Enhance Orc Shammy on Wyrmrest, though I also have a Nelf DH on the same server.
I havenāt been on for a long time, so I recently got back into it and used my 110 Upgrade on my main. Heās now 120 and LOVES Zuldazar.
#Zappyboi4Warchief
Wyrmrest Accord, you say? That’s my stomping grounds too. Can usually catch me slow-falling off the terrace of the Great Seal towards the crafters tier because stairs are for plebs.
I just glide down on my Demon Hunter on Zangarmarsh and will be doing the same with my DH on Wyrmrest Accord.
If this isnāt allowed, Dave, then please go ahead and delete it for me?
But since you said you stomp around on WyrmrestAccord then maybe you would like to say hi at some point? My charās name Horde side is Azagh. He generally runs around in Ghost Wolf form when at the Great Seal taking advantage of Gonkās Totems. I think it would be awesome to at least be able to say hi to one of my favorite famous people!
I have no problem with that at all. I’m Millanda on Wyrmrest Accord. Check your in-game mail, too. ;P
The family that raids together, stays together!
I actually play with my 18yr old and my 8yr old now š all Horde, of course!
I actually had my daughter roll a goblin hunter as her first toon, because they’re so easy and the goblins are cute and i knew she’d get a kick out of their start zone. Then she wanted to try a troll druid, too. We also rolled 2 undead hunters together at her request.
My son’s main is a demon hunter, and he has an UD hunter he’s trying to lvl up
I’ve got elemental shaman, fire mage, feral druid, shadow priest (all trolls), undead warlock (cuz i made him before trolls could be warlocks), and goblin hunter.
Goblin mage here, hello fellow profit-seeker!
OMG WoW references! And.. is every single one of your readers a WoW player? Cause that rocks!
Not every one. Tried it. Decided MMOs aren’t my speed.
Nope, sorry. I just don’t have the patience or eye-hand coordination for video gaming. (The only videogame that I ever lasted more than a few minutes in was the original “DooM” and that’s only because I played wingman to a relative expert — who, by the way, had the patience of a saint…)
Sigh…. I’m surrounded by Horde scum wherever I go…. *grumble grumble* bunch of warmongering monsters…. burn down my tree….. kick me out of Suramar…
I love that whole family plays together.
lol In all seriousness it is a bit unfair that technically the Horde gains two capital cities with the Highmountain and Nightborne. Heck the Horde technically controls the Broken Isles because other than the Vrykul their only opposition are a fistful of druids, some ghosts, and ONE Gilnean village. Honestly why they didnt start the war by invading Stormheim is beyond me since that would give them the chance to capture more of the Val’kyr and raise more “more powerful” undead (remember the undead vrykul in WoTLK?)
I’m a Horde player since Vanilla (except for a stint as Alliance during WotLK), but I can’t help but feel like the Alliance is getting really overlooked on everything right now. Horde got the first Warfront, we’re hosting the first two raids, we have actual mounts and not re-skinned horses… >_>
And the Nightborne/Highmountain thing really confuses me seeing as BOTH factions supported and helped them out. It would have been more sensible to make them Neutral races like the Pandaren.
I mained Alliance (NH hunter) back when I played (WoW clean for 10 years, where do I get my pin). But yeah, even then felt like the developers cared as much about the Alliance as the Horde.
I never played, wasn’t interested, which was strange, because I played the crap out of the original Warcraft and Warcraft II, not to mention the StarCraft(s). I did, however, watch my teenage, and later, adult son play WoW beside me, so I got to watch it a lot. Later I got my MMO fix playing SWOTOR and later FF14.
I’ve been a bit of a game hopper over the years. I come back to WoW every expansion and usually mess around fora month then go to something else. BFA is really holding me so far though, might try to stick this one out. Uldir is fun.
But what I really have my heart set on is seeing City of Titans get up and going. It’s a sliver of hope, but I still have it.
https://cityoftitans.com/
Awesome!! I love the WoW references!
Everyone here’s talking about their WoW memories while I’m only thinking about how Runescape and Ragnarok evolved from my middle school days till now.
I am a working stiff, which means I never had enough money for a computer that was new. I’d buy some guys broken laptop and fix it; which meant either– lots of ram and bad video card, or, great agp-video and crap ram. So I could never buy games when they came out, and really didn’t like that folks would come to work on 5 hours, or four, or three hours of sleep. They were genuine Zombies, in that all they could do was grouse about how tired they were, and then about how late they were going to be up tonight for their campaign. I played Myst through to Riven, and gave up.
I’ve never used oil paints or stone sculpture, but I have tried just about any other art form and media you can name. I’ve enjoyed it, and I have a house full of Art. And you meet some Really Fun People in art class!
Which is only minor league grousing about people who spent a wagonload of cash (a month’s salary for me) on an Alienware system, (back before Dell bought them up). Minor envy, but I have really lost out on popular culture with folks 20-40 years younger than me. I’m ancient but I Am up to date with Tech, just out of touch with this … uh … “gaming stuff”. Back in my day, you’d rolls yer dice (4-6-8-10-12-20) and Lord Gygax would have a law/rule for the DM to use. Was it in Chainmail or Gray Hawk?
Make your saving throw or Die, Orc-scum!
On my grave stone, I want carved in stone: “you are eaten by a gru.”
I love the implication that BM Hunter is so easy a small child can do it. š
I fell in love with Warcraft franchise back when Warcraft 1 was on a shareware disc way back when. Played all the games and bought WoW the day it came out as a late birthday present. While I don’t play now due to my comp is literally 9 years old and is so out of date, I still follow the lore probably will until Blizz decides to pull the plug. I miss playing but dropping $1200 for a system that won’t be needing upgrades within a year just isn’t in the budget for awhile. Have fun in Azeroth for me!