I will probably start a lot of heat now and that isn’t my intention… Yes it is not a good idea to romanticize the concept of picking on someone due to affection. I only ask that we not look at it from our adult hindsight and instead as a kid. You are feeling things you don’t understand and you really want the attention of a person, and you don’t have the maturity or the experience to know how to handle those emotions. You just know when you act this way, you get attention. Now we as adults know it isn’t the right attention, but I just want to say that rarely is that behavior coming from a place of malice or toxicity, just confusion and innocents.
Also, why boys get stereotyped with this behavior, it is a “children” thing, all children can tend to act up for attention, whether its from other children, parents, or other authority figures.
I hate talking about things like this because it always leads to arguing which their is no real point, but I am a big believe that we need to protect childeren’s right to be innocent. (that is not saying allowing this behavior, I am saying we don’t need to judge and punish them based on adult hang-ups or hindsight).
PS, yes we don’t need to ship these two, they grew up together and probably are more like siblings than anything else.
Thoughts on shipping characters who are children and on the “boy who picks on you because he likes you” trope (not as a reply because this comment section is difficult on a phone and it’s related to multiple comments anyway):
The first time I had a crush on a girl (I’m AFAB), I was six years old. She was my next door neighbor’s babysitter, and I played with my neighbor all the time, so I saw her a lot. I was a little pain in the ass to her. I remember one time, we were trying to make her catch this bug in a container for us, and she was pretty hesitant about it, went inside to grab a different container, so I jumped down from the top of the play set we were on, caught the bug in the container she had left, and then when she got back and was like, “Oh, you caught the bug!” I was like, “Yeah, it wasn’t hard. It’s just a bug. Grow up.” Like, why!!! And I remember taking two of my friends into my garage and whispering to them that I was mean to her because I liked her, even though at the time I didn’t really understand what that meant.
So I guess that’s to say that:
1. Kids can experience some types of romantic feelings at young ages. It’s possible that commenters here who are shipping characters recognize that stage from their own life and know such feelings are possible.
Also, the shipping of young characters is pretty common by children in children’s media. I can see why some might be uncomfortable with (presumably) adults shipping child characters, but I think it’s good to remember that this shipping can be as innocent as childhood feelings can be, and also, these are fictional characters.
2. The “he’s mean to you because he likes you” thing is a crappy thing to teach kids (and is inflicted most often on young girls, even though kids might act that way regardless of gender)– it can also be based on truth. I’m not in favor of telling kids that to excuse another’s behavior because a. How do you know? and b. That’s not an excuse!
If a kid is being mean to someone because they like them, ideally someone in the kid’s life would be able to be like, “Hey, I know you’re having some feelings that are confusing right know. I know you’re not sure how to express them or what else to do with them. It’s not okay to be mean to people because of that, though.” And if someone is on the receiving end, just reinforcing that, yeah, it’s not okay for someone to treat them that way. Even if they later do come and say it was all because of a crush, that doesn’t mean you have to forgive them.
3. If Dave goes that route (which I’m personally not seeing, but), I’m glad he had Tony apologize before anything potentially happened.
Ha! Gotteem.
Honestly I haven’t watched The Little Mermaid in… I may have only seen it once. I should watch it again.
There’s an entire song!
Sung by none other than Rene Auberjonois, better known as DS9’s favorite Constable, Odo.
I saw him in “Dance Of The Vampires,” as the professor.
I did not know that! That’s some prime trivia!
He was also Clayton Endicott III on Benson.
He’s also a descendant of the freaking Bonapartes!
Oh no…. I think I know what is gonna happen next. Selkie is about to get her first kiss!
Remember that bit about Sarnothi saliva?
Would that qualify as a… french kiss?
*flees for the hills, cackling*
Ugh, could the commentators please stop shipping 8 year olds??? Also the “he bullies you cuz he likes you” thing is gross and terrible thinking.
I will probably start a lot of heat now and that isn’t my intention… Yes it is not a good idea to romanticize the concept of picking on someone due to affection. I only ask that we not look at it from our adult hindsight and instead as a kid. You are feeling things you don’t understand and you really want the attention of a person, and you don’t have the maturity or the experience to know how to handle those emotions. You just know when you act this way, you get attention. Now we as adults know it isn’t the right attention, but I just want to say that rarely is that behavior coming from a place of malice or toxicity, just confusion and innocents.
Also, why boys get stereotyped with this behavior, it is a “children” thing, all children can tend to act up for attention, whether its from other children, parents, or other authority figures.
I hate talking about things like this because it always leads to arguing which their is no real point, but I am a big believe that we need to protect childeren’s right to be innocent. (that is not saying allowing this behavior, I am saying we don’t need to judge and punish them based on adult hang-ups or hindsight).
PS, yes we don’t need to ship these two, they grew up together and probably are more like siblings than anything else.
Oh god I should have proof read better… ewww pardon my mis-spellings and grammatical mistakes for that big TLDR.
*BRAVO*
i also hate the “they bully you because they like you” thing, but i’m still going to ship it because it’s cute
Thoughts on shipping characters who are children and on the “boy who picks on you because he likes you” trope (not as a reply because this comment section is difficult on a phone and it’s related to multiple comments anyway):
The first time I had a crush on a girl (I’m AFAB), I was six years old. She was my next door neighbor’s babysitter, and I played with my neighbor all the time, so I saw her a lot. I was a little pain in the ass to her. I remember one time, we were trying to make her catch this bug in a container for us, and she was pretty hesitant about it, went inside to grab a different container, so I jumped down from the top of the play set we were on, caught the bug in the container she had left, and then when she got back and was like, “Oh, you caught the bug!” I was like, “Yeah, it wasn’t hard. It’s just a bug. Grow up.” Like, why!!! And I remember taking two of my friends into my garage and whispering to them that I was mean to her because I liked her, even though at the time I didn’t really understand what that meant.
So I guess that’s to say that:
1. Kids can experience some types of romantic feelings at young ages. It’s possible that commenters here who are shipping characters recognize that stage from their own life and know such feelings are possible.
Also, the shipping of young characters is pretty common by children in children’s media. I can see why some might be uncomfortable with (presumably) adults shipping child characters, but I think it’s good to remember that this shipping can be as innocent as childhood feelings can be, and also, these are fictional characters.
2. The “he’s mean to you because he likes you” thing is a crappy thing to teach kids (and is inflicted most often on young girls, even though kids might act that way regardless of gender)– it can also be based on truth. I’m not in favor of telling kids that to excuse another’s behavior because a. How do you know? and b. That’s not an excuse!
If a kid is being mean to someone because they like them, ideally someone in the kid’s life would be able to be like, “Hey, I know you’re having some feelings that are confusing right know. I know you’re not sure how to express them or what else to do with them. It’s not okay to be mean to people because of that, though.” And if someone is on the receiving end, just reinforcing that, yeah, it’s not okay for someone to treat them that way. Even if they later do come and say it was all because of a crush, that doesn’t mean you have to forgive them.
3. If Dave goes that route (which I’m personally not seeing, but), I’m glad he had Tony apologize before anything potentially happened.