Naw, he called *dating* gross. It kind of is…especially the smooching part. I hear this a lot when I lay one on my husband in front of my kid at least (and, yes, they are just closed-mouthed kisses). 😉
This brings into question if (1) Te Fahn knows what dating is in terms of romance, and (2) what Sarnothi customs are when it comes to this sort of thing. Dating as a concept in humanity (or at least the Western world) only started emerging in public around the early 1900s, so it’s not like it’s a universal thing…
Does it matter? Feelings are complicated little things that cannot be explained. Seems like humans and Sarnothi share enough in appearance and behavior to be able to get past it all since we’ve already seen a couple. The venom thing has me scratching my head, though. I know there are plenty of ways around things behind closed doors, but it seems like some of the simple things would actually be more complicated. This along with the fact Todd never ran into further issues after Selkie’s kiss makes me wonder if humans can eventually build up a resistance if they live with a Sarnothi long enough.
Todd never ran into further issues because they don’t kiss. Someone (don’t recall whether it was Agent Orange or Doctor Bunny-ears) showed them the Sarnothi gesture of familial affection – stroking the side of the face with the back of the hand. Grandma does that at least once to Selkie.
And when Mrs. Agent Orange kisses him, she places her hand over his mouth, kissing the back of her hand, while he (I presume) kisses the palm. No spit get swapped.
Measure twice, cut once.
Think twice, speak once.
Or, (or as I have found) in the case of boys and husbands– think three times and shut up. Meh, … It works well for me. Impulseive and trying to be witty = 80% fail.
I think Te Fahn is very surprised at hearing that Georgie thinks dating is gross? I think she is very Into the feelings that come with getting to know someone better, getting close to someone. He may have been misunderstood but I think Te Fahn is at the Least, shocked or knocked back a bit.
I love George! He would not fit into the schools around here, but I totally was that kid—even when I was in middle school. I had a lot of platonic friends, but got freaked out or confused if they started showing interest in me. Life is short. It’s nice just to be a kid. Of course that is different for everyone. 😉
But kids around here start pairing off at 2nd grade now—and even boys play along…often facilitating even. The “cootie” games from my childhood (where boys pretend girls are gross and the girls sometimes try to infect them) are completely obsolete. My kid would have had at least two or three official boyfriends by now if I didn’t softly discourage/distract her.
The worst thing is the boys’ parents actually were encouraging it, because they thought it was cute. I found this really disturbing… It’s one thing when kids experiment on their own or get into shenanigans like this story, but it’s a whole other creepy level when adults insert themselves into it.
I never really thought about cooties (might be due to being a girl) but I was never really interested in having a boyfriend/girlfriend when I was young. Part of it might have been my parents not wanting us to have such a thing until we were highschool, but I would have rather just have been friends. Of course, I think that stopped around 4th/5th grade when it was no longer “cool” for boys to be friends with girls unfortunately. It could be possible that people thought that I was “dating” my platonic guy friend, but it wasn’t that case (for me at least).
To be honest though, I think kids “date” pretty young and found it annoying then and now that you can’t just be “friends” with someone of the opposite sex. It was especially annoying if you were interested in things that your gender wasn’t supposed to be interested in (like dnd or weapon forging for a girl), since you could only have a conversation about that interest with the opposite gender normally. And any conversation with the opposite gender was considered “flirting”. Human relationships are complicated.
Society is seriously Messed-Up (screwed- as in bolted to the wall). And I blame parents for using the TV as a babysitter, I blame the stupidity of television programs on setting false ideals in front of kids in the name of humour. Not all of TV is trash… Just mostly all of it.
People are pointing out that George called dating gross and not Te’Fan gross…
People hear what they want to hear… If I were to stay something like that to my wife, she would DEFINITELY MISUNDERSTAND.
Just for curiosity’s sake, can two platonic friends date then too by your definition? I suppose there are “friend dates” but I feel like using the term date could cause a lot of confusion if you aren’t romantically interested in the person, but then you also hit issues with defining a friend that is of the opposite gender. I sometimes wish that English was more definite and stringent in its definitions of words. Vagueness can always leave something to be desired in certain conversations. I won’t even bring up definitions in dictionaries that use the term in the definition.
If we’re gonna get technical, the word comes from the word for a particular chosen day to begin with. Then there are newer compound words like “playdate” for kids spending some time together doing just that, playing. In the end, a date doesn’t really have to be romantic. But also, a date can very much be exactly what I said, too.
Oh, George, NO!
You just told a nice girl you think she’s gross.
Naw, he called *dating* gross. It kind of is…especially the smooching part. I hear this a lot when I lay one on my husband in front of my kid at least (and, yes, they are just closed-mouthed kisses). 😉
Ah yes, I know that, but will Fahn see it that way?
Georgie no, bad choice of words.
In Georgie’s defense, he’s what? Eight? Nine, max?
Still not the best way he could have phrased that, though.
No, but being eight or nine max mean he’s never had to think about how he phrases things like that. You know what they say about good judgement.
This brings into question if (1) Te Fahn knows what dating is in terms of romance, and (2) what Sarnothi customs are when it comes to this sort of thing. Dating as a concept in humanity (or at least the Western world) only started emerging in public around the early 1900s, so it’s not like it’s a universal thing…
Does it matter? Feelings are complicated little things that cannot be explained. Seems like humans and Sarnothi share enough in appearance and behavior to be able to get past it all since we’ve already seen a couple. The venom thing has me scratching my head, though. I know there are plenty of ways around things behind closed doors, but it seems like some of the simple things would actually be more complicated. This along with the fact Todd never ran into further issues after Selkie’s kiss makes me wonder if humans can eventually build up a resistance if they live with a Sarnothi long enough.
Todd never ran into further issues because they don’t kiss. Someone (don’t recall whether it was Agent Orange or Doctor Bunny-ears) showed them the Sarnothi gesture of familial affection – stroking the side of the face with the back of the hand. Grandma does that at least once to Selkie.
And when Mrs. Agent Orange kisses him, she places her hand over his mouth, kissing the back of her hand, while he (I presume) kisses the palm. No spit get swapped.
Measure twice, cut once.
Think twice, speak once.
Or, (or as I have found) in the case of boys and husbands– think three times and shut up. Meh, … It works well for me. Impulseive and trying to be witty = 80% fail.
I thought it was witty! A+
Thanks!
So glad it wasn’t a math test.
He did not call her gross. He called the idea of dating gross.
The only way that I can see where she should be offended would be if she thought the dating George would be a wonderful thing.
Is quite possible she is also thinking – dating? EWWWW, GROSS.
Which she very well might, the “tell me a story” thing she did (twice!) seemed kind of meaningful.
Hey, Alpo, what happened to your avatar image?
I think Te Fahn is very surprised at hearing that Georgie thinks dating is gross? I think she is very Into the feelings that come with getting to know someone better, getting close to someone. He may have been misunderstood but I think Te Fahn is at the Least, shocked or knocked back a bit.
Te Fahn could easily have misinterpreted Georgie’s “Dating is gross” general statement to mean “Dating Te Fahn would be gross”
I love George! He would not fit into the schools around here, but I totally was that kid—even when I was in middle school. I had a lot of platonic friends, but got freaked out or confused if they started showing interest in me. Life is short. It’s nice just to be a kid. Of course that is different for everyone. 😉
But kids around here start pairing off at 2nd grade now—and even boys play along…often facilitating even. The “cootie” games from my childhood (where boys pretend girls are gross and the girls sometimes try to infect them) are completely obsolete. My kid would have had at least two or three official boyfriends by now if I didn’t softly discourage/distract her.
The worst thing is the boys’ parents actually were encouraging it, because they thought it was cute. I found this really disturbing… It’s one thing when kids experiment on their own or get into shenanigans like this story, but it’s a whole other creepy level when adults insert themselves into it.
I never really thought about cooties (might be due to being a girl) but I was never really interested in having a boyfriend/girlfriend when I was young. Part of it might have been my parents not wanting us to have such a thing until we were highschool, but I would have rather just have been friends. Of course, I think that stopped around 4th/5th grade when it was no longer “cool” for boys to be friends with girls unfortunately. It could be possible that people thought that I was “dating” my platonic guy friend, but it wasn’t that case (for me at least).
To be honest though, I think kids “date” pretty young and found it annoying then and now that you can’t just be “friends” with someone of the opposite sex. It was especially annoying if you were interested in things that your gender wasn’t supposed to be interested in (like dnd or weapon forging for a girl), since you could only have a conversation about that interest with the opposite gender normally. And any conversation with the opposite gender was considered “flirting”. Human relationships are complicated.
Society is seriously Messed-Up (screwed- as in bolted to the wall). And I blame parents for using the TV as a babysitter, I blame the stupidity of television programs on setting false ideals in front of kids in the name of humour. Not all of TV is trash… Just mostly all of it.
People are pointing out that George called dating gross and not Te’Fan gross…
People hear what they want to hear… If I were to stay something like that to my wife, she would DEFINITELY MISUNDERSTAND.
Hear hear.
datings is justs two peoples hanging outs togethers and doing what they likes
Just for curiosity’s sake, can two platonic friends date then too by your definition? I suppose there are “friend dates” but I feel like using the term date could cause a lot of confusion if you aren’t romantically interested in the person, but then you also hit issues with defining a friend that is of the opposite gender. I sometimes wish that English was more definite and stringent in its definitions of words. Vagueness can always leave something to be desired in certain conversations. I won’t even bring up definitions in dictionaries that use the term in the definition.
If we’re gonna get technical, the word comes from the word for a particular chosen day to begin with. Then there are newer compound words like “playdate” for kids spending some time together doing just that, playing. In the end, a date doesn’t really have to be romantic. But also, a date can very much be exactly what I said, too.
Thanks. I was just curious. I have heard the term playdate before, but more for younger kids than Selkie’s age I think.
…I’d say the drama queen thing is racist, but…
Selkie is REALLY living the reputation. It’s like…is it racist if you turn out to be RIGHT on the money?
…I think the answer is yes, but…