Well Heather, it’s your move. Make it a good one.
Also I like how Giselle has progressed in this comic. She’s gone from manipulative mastermind to covering for the mistake of the person she took advantage of. Nice.
We prefer to call them “Mindermasts,”. … ‘ keeps the boys down at the precinct house from gettin’ down at the heels about .. You know… Going up against real Genius.
I, for one, don’t think Giselle’s doing this maliciously (as of what we see right here on this page, opinion subject to change as more information becomes available) based on her expressions. She seems more concerned than triumphant when there are no adults looking at her (she’s behind both parents in panel 3). And the “I know you lied” isn’t phrased as “now you OWE me to keep me from telling,” but is included in “maybe you should make up with Amanda, the person I was trying to assist in separating you from.”
Too much maybe to condemn or condone in this one strip. I’m just gonna wait and see what happens, but right now I’m leaning positive reasons.
Yeah, on the previous page I thought she was being a horrible brat trying to further hurt Amanda, but here it seems as though… she’s trying to help them both. Not throwing Heather under the bus, but gently nudging Heather in the right direction.
Heather really needs to own up to her mistake. She broke a promise and then tried to cover it up. Now she’s lied in order to keep anyone else finding out she broke her promise to a friend and it’s gotten said friend in a lot of trouble. I get that Amanda is a brat, but she DID seem sorry in terms of body language and facial expressions immediately after she smacked Heather. It doesn’t excuse the fact that she hit her at all, but she genuinely seemed to regret it almost instantly. Plus she intended to apologize, albeit after she told Heather to apologize first. Both girls were at fault in the situation.
Amanda really needs to learn to talk things out with people instead of bottling up her thoughts and feelings and turning them into anger though.
Like, for reals Amanda, it’s not healthy for you or your friends for you to be that way.
One of the things I’ve stressed to my nieces and nephews is that lying to get someone else in trouble — or lying to get yourself out of trouble, at the expense of someone else — is one of the Big Bad Things that good people don’t do (and that kids need to know is a bad thing they must learn not to do).
There’s a reason it’s on the list of The Ten Commandments — alongside stuff like theft and murder. If people can’t rely on your word to clear up problems and see the truth of what happened, well, the more people that do that, the more society breaks down. And it’s not good for you, as a person, as a social creature, to rely on lies that hurt others.
I do find it interesting that the Bible, while certainly favoring truth and disliking lies, doesn’t put LYING on the lists of bad stuff. It puts HABITUAL LYING and LYING TO GET OTHERS IN TROUBLE (false witness) on the big lists.
I don’t remember well what happened. I know it’s related to something in the girls’ washroom, and about amanda’s story and her punching like a boxer lol
She’s already learned: the most effective lies contain some truth. There was jealousy in the argument, and the argument is what lead to the hitting, so if we ignore the other primary cause to the argument (telling Selkie about the previous family stuff) then it was a relatively truthful account of events.
Still only relatively, but that’s where the fibbing comes into play.
She said Amanda hit her because she was jealous, and only because she was jealous. From the argument they had/Amanda’s outburst, it was primarily because Selkie told heather about Amanda’s abusive family (which she swore to not tell anyone about). The deliberate partial truth telling (because there was some jealousy) is where the fib lies.
Well Heather, it’s your move. Make it a good one.
Also I like how Giselle has progressed in this comic. She’s gone from manipulative mastermind to covering for the mistake of the person she took advantage of. Nice.
What makes you think she’s not being a manipulative mastermind now?
We prefer to call them “Mindermasts,”. … ‘ keeps the boys down at the precinct house from gettin’ down at the heels about .. You know… Going up against real Genius.
Yep… it’s called BLACKMAIL material… that’s a very manipulative thing that a mastermind would do…
I, for one, don’t think Giselle’s doing this maliciously (as of what we see right here on this page, opinion subject to change as more information becomes available) based on her expressions. She seems more concerned than triumphant when there are no adults looking at her (she’s behind both parents in panel 3). And the “I know you lied” isn’t phrased as “now you OWE me to keep me from telling,” but is included in “maybe you should make up with Amanda, the person I was trying to assist in separating you from.”
Too much maybe to condemn or condone in this one strip. I’m just gonna wait and see what happens, but right now I’m leaning positive reasons.
Yeah, on the previous page I thought she was being a horrible brat trying to further hurt Amanda, but here it seems as though… she’s trying to help them both. Not throwing Heather under the bus, but gently nudging Heather in the right direction.
Heather really needs to own up to her mistake. She broke a promise and then tried to cover it up. Now she’s lied in order to keep anyone else finding out she broke her promise to a friend and it’s gotten said friend in a lot of trouble. I get that Amanda is a brat, but she DID seem sorry in terms of body language and facial expressions immediately after she smacked Heather. It doesn’t excuse the fact that she hit her at all, but she genuinely seemed to regret it almost instantly. Plus she intended to apologize, albeit after she told Heather to apologize first. Both girls were at fault in the situation.
Amanda really needs to learn to talk things out with people instead of bottling up her thoughts and feelings and turning them into anger though.
Like, for reals Amanda, it’s not healthy for you or your friends for you to be that way.
One of the things I’ve stressed to my nieces and nephews is that lying to get someone else in trouble — or lying to get yourself out of trouble, at the expense of someone else — is one of the Big Bad Things that good people don’t do (and that kids need to know is a bad thing they must learn not to do).
There’s a reason it’s on the list of The Ten Commandments — alongside stuff like theft and murder. If people can’t rely on your word to clear up problems and see the truth of what happened, well, the more people that do that, the more society breaks down. And it’s not good for you, as a person, as a social creature, to rely on lies that hurt others.
I do find it interesting that the Bible, while certainly favoring truth and disliking lies, doesn’t put LYING on the lists of bad stuff. It puts HABITUAL LYING and LYING TO GET OTHERS IN TROUBLE (false witness) on the big lists.
I don’t remember well what happened. I know it’s related to something in the girls’ washroom, and about amanda’s story and her punching like a boxer lol
Manipulative for the sake someone else owning up to their mistakes. Smart kid.
She’s already learned: the most effective lies contain some truth. There was jealousy in the argument, and the argument is what lead to the hitting, so if we ignore the other primary cause to the argument (telling Selkie about the previous family stuff) then it was a relatively truthful account of events.
Still only relatively, but that’s where the fibbing comes into play.
When did she fib?
She said Amanda hit her because she was jealous, and only because she was jealous. From the argument they had/Amanda’s outburst, it was primarily because Selkie told heather about Amanda’s abusive family (which she swore to not tell anyone about). The deliberate partial truth telling (because there was some jealousy) is where the fib lies.