Aaaaand just in case you thought we were done with drama and Dave was going to wrap everything up neatly all at once, we get a reminder that Dave likes to plot things relatively realistically and won’t spare characters’ feelings just because we’re near the end of a major story arc and another one needs to start soon (unless it’s the end of the comic already… hopefully not).
On the other hand, maybe this is an opportunity for Selkie to be a shoulder angel to Heather? Find out on the next exciting update of… Selkie: Mad Scientist In Training!
I think Heather wants to be Amanda’s friend. All she’s waiting for is that apology. I bet if Amanda would do so, Heather would apologize about telling Selkie Amanda’s secret. Heck, it might even come out why she told Selkie.
But we won’t know until Amanda and Heather become friends again. I hope Keisha can do something to mend the tapestry that is their friendship.
Wow. Poor Keisha. And…there is a very painful truth to what Heather is saying. Truck has learned or is trying to learn in a way. Same for Giselle and her crew. So…can Amanda learn?
Heather is also hurting Keisha. She might not realise it, but being stuck in the middle of two warring factions, two people whom Keisha wants to get along but won’t: well, it hurts A LOT. Because no matter what she tries, unless they want to get along they won’t. And in the meantime she’s going to feel like she’s in a tug-of-war with her as the rope. It’s anything but fun.
Sorry, talking from experience here. Well done, Dave. I’ve become extremely emotionally invested in this webcomic. Keep up the great work!
That’s true, but the problem is that Heather is probably right. Amanda hasn’t shown Heather any remorse or any indication that she won’t do it again. Unless she does, getting away from a toxic situation is a very viable and sensible option.
Agreed. I feel sorry for Keisha getting stuck between her friends and all, but walking away is probably the right thing for Heather to do at this point.
Indeed. I agree. Both of the children are currently trying to deal with their feelings of hurt and betrayal, and they are doing it in the only way they know. And yet, Keisha wants nothing to do with their issues. She just wants to be friends with both of them. Despite the fact that Heather has (in Amanda’s eyes, anyway) doubly betrayed her, and Amanda trying to get back at her: Keisha just want everything to ‘go away so it can be like it used to be’. It is the right thing for Heather to do. Amanda will likely continue on her path of lashing out at people for betrayals of her trust, and who knows who will be her next target? I’m just saying I’ve been in that position between two warring parties and it is /far/ from pleasant, even when being an adult.
Yeah, it sucks for all three of them… but what’ll happen to their group dynamic once Amanda gets back with her Biological Mom?… somehow i really don’t see things improving… i can’t really explain my jumps of logic, but i see her turning into a female version of Truck!… since her mom has NO frickin’ clue how to raise a kid at ALL, i foresee Amanda becoming a spoiled brat that runs roughshod over her mom, and so the cycle repeats itself… Truck becomes/ is becoming a better person (we hope), and Amanda goes the way of The Dark Side…
well it’s true Amanda should say she is sorry but Heather all so should say she is sorry. Heather did tell selkie that Amanda got dumped, so I think that both girls need to say they are sorry. what do you guy’s think.
I think Heather needs to realize she did her friensa disservice by telling one of her friend’s ‘enemies’ something she told her best friend in confidence. Amanda’s trust was betrayed and her actions, while not justified, were indeed expected. Heather needs to apologize first because how she is currently acting just solidifies the fact that Amanda feels cheated and betrayed and her actions were not wrong. Now, Amanda also needs to say she’s sorry, a truly heartfelt apology explaining why her emotions got the better of her, but unless Heather apologizes first, Amanda’s apology will be out of obligation, not out of sincerity…
I have two nephews, born two days apart, who are 10, though the slightly younger one is much heavier than the older one; the older one has an 8-year-old sister. Last night I learned that the bigger kid, reacting to being called a jerk by the smaller kid, held him against a wall and punched and kicked him repeatedly, while also preventing the sister from running to get help.
This is incredibly worrisome, and not the first move in a history of violent behavior that we have been trying to curtail. The punching is bad, but believe it or not, “preventing someone from getting help” is, in adult domestic violence cases, one step shy of MURDER (e.g. if the aggressor breaks the phone so the victim can’t call the cops), because it often is literally the step right before actual murder. So while I doubt my nephew is about to murder anyone, we’ve got to do something to stop my nephew from going further down this violent road he’s on.
The thing is, when we adults were discussing it (in the absence of my nephew and his mom), my dad was telling the smaller kid that he shouldn’t egg the bigger kid on, and that he really needs to learn not to push the bigger kid’s buttons. And I’m sitting there recalling all the rape-awareness campaigns going on right now, and how they talk about how everyone is quick to blame the victim. Yes, stuff that the one kid said made the other kid mad, but IT DOESN’T THE HELL MATTER, because the other kid resorting to physical violence. Is this a hard concept? Nothing the one kid says could in any way justify the violence, and it is the violent one, not the verbal one, who is at fault here.
So it’s my strong position that the violent one must understand how wrong the violence was, and reconcile with the group, before any reconciliation needs be made from anyone else in the conflict. Because if the violent one can’t see that the violence was unacceptable conduct, there’s no reconciliation to be had, and the group should break apart for good. (In adult relationships, this sort of reasoning where the victim has to make nice and the violent one accept it, that has all kinds of warning signs all over it – the victim needs to get out of the relationship before anything worse happens.)
Is the Secret Director’s Commentary – “Both of them need a time out and a hug” – supposed to be floating over the image when the cursor is? Because that’s what’s happening, but I thought you wanted to have it in a click-to-reveal box at the bottom in case someone’s browser couldn’t support it.
This is very realistic portrayal of childhood behaviour. At roughly the same age, I stopped being friends with a classmate because a ‘friendly’ punch on the shoulder stung more than I expected. (It’s not truly analogous, because in that case, it may have been a genuine accident. I don’t know, because we never spoke again, and my family moved two years later.)
Heather has a point…
Aaaaand just in case you thought we were done with drama and Dave was going to wrap everything up neatly all at once, we get a reminder that Dave likes to plot things relatively realistically and won’t spare characters’ feelings just because we’re near the end of a major story arc and another one needs to start soon (unless it’s the end of the comic already… hopefully not).
On the other hand, maybe this is an opportunity for Selkie to be a shoulder angel to Heather? Find out on the next exciting update of… Selkie: Mad Scientist In Training!
My past month resembles that comment. Small respite from the drama, then into it again!
Still, what Heather is doing is pretty harsh.
I think Heather wants to be Amanda’s friend. All she’s waiting for is that apology. I bet if Amanda would do so, Heather would apologize about telling Selkie Amanda’s secret. Heck, it might even come out why she told Selkie.
But we won’t know until Amanda and Heather become friends again. I hope Keisha can do something to mend the tapestry that is their friendship.
Wow. Poor Keisha. And…there is a very painful truth to what Heather is saying. Truck has learned or is trying to learn in a way. Same for Giselle and her crew. So…can Amanda learn?
Heather is also hurting Keisha. She might not realise it, but being stuck in the middle of two warring factions, two people whom Keisha wants to get along but won’t: well, it hurts A LOT. Because no matter what she tries, unless they want to get along they won’t. And in the meantime she’s going to feel like she’s in a tug-of-war with her as the rope. It’s anything but fun.
Sorry, talking from experience here. Well done, Dave. I’ve become extremely emotionally invested in this webcomic. Keep up the great work!
That’s true, but the problem is that Heather is probably right. Amanda hasn’t shown Heather any remorse or any indication that she won’t do it again. Unless she does, getting away from a toxic situation is a very viable and sensible option.
Agreed. I feel sorry for Keisha getting stuck between her friends and all, but walking away is probably the right thing for Heather to do at this point.
Indeed. I agree. Both of the children are currently trying to deal with their feelings of hurt and betrayal, and they are doing it in the only way they know. And yet, Keisha wants nothing to do with their issues. She just wants to be friends with both of them. Despite the fact that Heather has (in Amanda’s eyes, anyway) doubly betrayed her, and Amanda trying to get back at her: Keisha just want everything to ‘go away so it can be like it used to be’. It is the right thing for Heather to do. Amanda will likely continue on her path of lashing out at people for betrayals of her trust, and who knows who will be her next target? I’m just saying I’ve been in that position between two warring parties and it is /far/ from pleasant, even when being an adult.
Yeah, it sucks for all three of them… but what’ll happen to their group dynamic once Amanda gets back with her Biological Mom?… somehow i really don’t see things improving… i can’t really explain my jumps of logic, but i see her turning into a female version of Truck!… since her mom has NO frickin’ clue how to raise a kid at ALL, i foresee Amanda becoming a spoiled brat that runs roughshod over her mom, and so the cycle repeats itself… Truck becomes/ is becoming a better person (we hope), and Amanda goes the way of The Dark Side…
well it’s true Amanda should say she is sorry but Heather all so should say she is sorry. Heather did tell selkie that Amanda got dumped, so I think that both girls need to say they are sorry. what do you guy’s think.
I think Heather needs to realize she did her friensa disservice by telling one of her friend’s ‘enemies’ something she told her best friend in confidence. Amanda’s trust was betrayed and her actions, while not justified, were indeed expected. Heather needs to apologize first because how she is currently acting just solidifies the fact that Amanda feels cheated and betrayed and her actions were not wrong. Now, Amanda also needs to say she’s sorry, a truly heartfelt apology explaining why her emotions got the better of her, but unless Heather apologizes first, Amanda’s apology will be out of obligation, not out of sincerity…
I have two nephews, born two days apart, who are 10, though the slightly younger one is much heavier than the older one; the older one has an 8-year-old sister. Last night I learned that the bigger kid, reacting to being called a jerk by the smaller kid, held him against a wall and punched and kicked him repeatedly, while also preventing the sister from running to get help.
This is incredibly worrisome, and not the first move in a history of violent behavior that we have been trying to curtail. The punching is bad, but believe it or not, “preventing someone from getting help” is, in adult domestic violence cases, one step shy of MURDER (e.g. if the aggressor breaks the phone so the victim can’t call the cops), because it often is literally the step right before actual murder. So while I doubt my nephew is about to murder anyone, we’ve got to do something to stop my nephew from going further down this violent road he’s on.
The thing is, when we adults were discussing it (in the absence of my nephew and his mom), my dad was telling the smaller kid that he shouldn’t egg the bigger kid on, and that he really needs to learn not to push the bigger kid’s buttons. And I’m sitting there recalling all the rape-awareness campaigns going on right now, and how they talk about how everyone is quick to blame the victim. Yes, stuff that the one kid said made the other kid mad, but IT DOESN’T THE HELL MATTER, because the other kid resorting to physical violence. Is this a hard concept? Nothing the one kid says could in any way justify the violence, and it is the violent one, not the verbal one, who is at fault here.
So it’s my strong position that the violent one must understand how wrong the violence was, and reconcile with the group, before any reconciliation needs be made from anyone else in the conflict. Because if the violent one can’t see that the violence was unacceptable conduct, there’s no reconciliation to be had, and the group should break apart for good. (In adult relationships, this sort of reasoning where the victim has to make nice and the violent one accept it, that has all kinds of warning signs all over it – the victim needs to get out of the relationship before anything worse happens.)
Is the Secret Director’s Commentary – “Both of them need a time out and a hug” – supposed to be floating over the image when the cursor is? Because that’s what’s happening, but I thought you wanted to have it in a click-to-reveal box at the bottom in case someone’s browser couldn’t support it.
This is very realistic portrayal of childhood behaviour. At roughly the same age, I stopped being friends with a classmate because a ‘friendly’ punch on the shoulder stung more than I expected. (It’s not truly analogous, because in that case, it may have been a genuine accident. I don’t know, because we never spoke again, and my family moved two years later.)
Woops, typed it in the wrong box. Fixed!
Been there, Keisha, been there. My sympathies.
I think we have a case of the pot calling the kettle black.
They’re both wrong, and they’re both right, and they both need to apologize.
And gee Dave, when you started this crazy ride, did you think you’d stir up such emotion and such discussions as we’ve enjoyed here?
Nope!
Then you’re doing it right, the characters have become “real”