The last appearance of Giselle, Michael, and Robert.
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Just want to mention this again, but some close friends of mine are running a fundraiser yard sale to raise money for in-vitro fertilization treatments this weekend. I’ve gotten confirmation of time off work so I can attend and support them, so if any readers live near the Quincy, Illinois area this could also double as a meet-and-greet. I estimate I should be hitting the yard sale about 3 or 4pm. Ish.
Just look for the jerk trying to make the Dreamworks face:
And as before, if anyone would like to help them out but don’t live in the area, they also have a crowdfunding page here.
Thank you, as always!
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OOTS fan?
I am, and I was going to post Miss Aspie’s exact words but she beat me to it.
There’s plenty of kids to adopt, there’s no reason to spend a crazy amount of money to get pregnant.
Especially considering that it can cost anywhere from $10,000.00 to $30,000.00 dollars.
Just seems like there are better ways to spend such a huge chunk of money.
Yes, there are plenty of children to adopt out there. But the process is often more than that and the foster system gets up into every facet of your lives. Not everyone can handle that level of personal invasion.
Also, the sad truth is that if somewhere down the line, the biological parent suddenly wants the child back, the system tends to take the child away, traumatizing both foster parents and children.
Not that people shouldn’t adopt a kid. If they can handle what the system entails, have the money, and in their heart wants to adopt a child, why certainly they should. Every child deserves a home. However, as is most things in life, it isn’t a universal fit.
No, legally birth parents cannot take back children after the adoption process has been finalized. I don’t really know where you get your information from, but it’s incorrect. If that sort of behavior was allowed the system would be in so much more chaos then what it already is.
They are making the decision that’s right for them.
I wish there was a “like” button after posts. Have an upvote.
It is a very personal decision either way. Adopting a young baby can cost as much or more than in vitro. Adopting an older child is easier, but requires courage, patience, and some experience with kids, because they will have emotional hurdles to overcome (abandonment issues and/or grief).
They may very well feel that’s the best choice for them, but I am going to disagree strongly.
The world is already terribly over populated and I feel that we need to start cutting back on our carbon footprints.
There’s an entire mess of children out there that could use a good home, children that would most likely doing anything for a loving family.
But what do Americans do? They expend a vast amount of money just to add to the ever growing, crowded population that already exists.
Adopting from the public American foster system is one of the cheapest routes to go for a couple that desperately want a child. Further more, most areas even give couples tax breaks or monthly stipends for adoptions.
And just so you know, I can totally see how Dave could take offence to what I am saying, well.. That happens when you bring private matters like that to an open forum like the internet.
Jarman, you do realize that you (and your carbon footprint), by your very existence, also contribute to the population problem.
I sure do, but I don’t go out of my way to knock people up. As a matter of fact, my health insurance covers vasectomies and I plan on getting one sooner then later. I didn’t choose to be born, but I can easily choose to not contribute more.
I think that is a wise decision for you.
Yeah that’s real cute Bunny, I tell you what, go FUCK YOURSELF. Cunt.
Heh, you just confirmed my impressions of you. You need to learn bigger words, and try not to be so judgmental. Poor Jarman.
And DO hurry with the vasectomy. The world is counting on you!
No Bunny, you don’t know at all and that’s the problem. While actually discussing this thing, I made an attempt to be little as a jerk as possible, because people aren’t going to bother listening or talking to you if you are just a total asshole about it.
I explained my views on it and when someone brought up the issue with my own carbon footprints I explained on what I had planned on doing with it.
You were the one who opened your mouth, you were the one who initiated what happened next, by being a smart ass.
Bigger words? Bigger words do not define a person’s intelligence, words are words and the choice of my words are my own business. I responded the way I did because of the way you addressed me Bunny.
I just HATE what the anonymity of the internet has done to people, it’s simply ridiculous. Because if you had walked up to the street and said something like that to me I would I put a boot up your ass.
You can act like I am being the dick, but you started it.
No actually, You escalated this. Feeling so free to judge his friends on whatever his friends have been through to form their family. Breathtakingly judgmental. I think you’re projecting in a huge way here. The “anonymity of the internet” seems to make you think that your opinion should matter to Dave and his friends. If you don’t agree with their struggles with IVF, don’t contribute to the fund. But don’t jump on and tell them how wrong they are to spend money trying to make a baby. Don’t tout how virtuous you are by not making a baby. Nobody cares. And yeah, hurry up with the vasectomy. I sure hope YOU are not raising any children, attitudes like that don’t need to be perpetuated. (That means continued without end, or sustained or saved from extinction) Trying to put me down by calling me a synonym for a woman’s genitalia? Rookie move. Such words don’t insult me.
Please don’t drop the C-Word.
Is that girl ever happy?
I can rarely remember her smiling when it doesn’t involve someone else being miserable.
No. She is literally never happy. She is a child who was abused and abandoned, sounds like more than once. It’s going to get worse for her when she realizes that her biologic father, when presented with a choice, chose another child instead of her. Chose a non-human child that Amanda herself despised. Yeah, unhappy doesn’t cover what Amanda feels. I hope her bio-mom, as cracked as Andi is comes for her soon.
I feel like at some point, I owe Amanda some screen-time that isn’t defined by rage or pity.
I read a lot of webcomics so sometimes I don’t keep up but can you point me to the one that showed that she was abused?
Regardless of that I’ve met a few kids who have been abused and they were taken away from that environment and were rather happy children rather than well like Amanda is who is just repeating a cycle in bullying/abusing others.
And I’ve met people who where in that environment for a prolonged period of time, as in until they were able to move out to get away. They are happy but they have their moments that I know is from that, but still they aren’t being mad all of the time or acting like sadist.
Go back to the dinner where Todd and Selkie visit the fairweathers at home. There after the outside soccer Heather and Selkie talk, and Heather tells Selkie and asks her to never let on that she knows. Later when Truck was hurting Selkie, Amanda’s unexpectedly horrified. She goes to Selkie to tell her that she Never meant for Truck to do that. Selkie asks If it reminded her of her former family and Amanda flips.
I looked though it doesn’t really say that she was “abused” just that that family’s real kids were “mean to her” so you’re left to assume that it was abuse or rather bullying on the part of the children.
The parents ‘dumped’ her though I’m not sure of the term so I don’t know if it qualifies harshly as abandonment rather than returning her to the orphanage. For all we know it could have been for her own good and safety if the parents realized that their own children were bullying her.
What happened to all the snow?
The lot was cleaned off.
Oho, man. Can we talk about the way Amanda said hi? Freakin’ brrr.
I think she takes that from her father…
You’re surprised?! She knows Heather, her BFF, told the person Amanda considers her nemesis about the one thing that Amanda doesn’t want anyone to know about. Amanda would rather swallow broken glass than appear weak, so yeah, Selkie knowing that Amanda was abused and hearing about it from Heather is a HUGE betrayal. You’re shocked that Amanda is cold? I’m astonished that she isn’t beating upon Heather with her fists.
Although I am a strong advocate of personal choice, I do get what Jarman is saying. For it is kind of weird to have a webcomic about the perks and general awesomeness of adoption and then support the opposite choice 🙂
Heh. Yeah I knew it might look like an awkward philosophy-conflict when I decided to share it. But they’re my friends, and I support their pursuits and endeavors, ya know?
I can’t really see In Vitro as an “opposite choice” of adoption.
Other choice, maybe… but not opposite.
The only opposites for me are trying to have a kid, or not.
Chosing between a kid from your own DNA or a kid who was put up for adoption doesn’t feel like chosing between two opposites, though… just different.
Point being: You can be pro-adoption and pro-IVF at the same time in my book.
I agree. It’s not our place to judge or condemn someone for taking either option.
I’m not seeing a conflict. I know several people (including some close friends) who have both biological and adopted children. I wouldn’t have a problem if sometime Todd got married and had a child (or more) with his wife, with Selkie as the big sister.
Me neither. Though I do have a link to a discussion about IVF vs. adoption from a website I’ve been a member of for 12 years now that brings up some more things to think about. http://h2g2.com/forums/A148907/conversation/view/F19585/T7241848